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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. Salty

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    But man DOES define marriage - even though God does not validate it. As I said - before - Man makes his own rules - even if they are wrong - and since we live in this society - it will happen. Granted we should do what we can - and since the Devil is the god of this world ( 2 Cor 4:4) it will probably just keep getting worse, until the Lord returns.
     
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    The question of the OP was about when a marriage is valid. That is the focus of my responses.
    Yes, it will get worse, no doubt about that. I don’t look forward to it, though faith in God’s wisdom should cause me to be excited to see Him work in increasingly difficult circumstances.
     
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    Exactly - and a marriage is valid when authorized by the goverment.
     
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    Matthew 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
    8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so
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    God gave the law to Moses. Moses was the great law-giver. God gave Moses, the government, the authority to impose parameters on marriage.
     
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    I think that is stretching it a bit since at the time, Israel was a Theocracy.
     
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    Yet God did not approve of divorce. The authority was God's and Moses failed because of the hardness of there hearts. I do not believe God approved at all. Divorce is always about there desire. They will say I don't love him/her anymore. The truth is we are capable of loving even our enemies. There fore it is not because of a lack of love but desire. Truth is God wasn't in it.
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    So when did the government take over that role?
    In the UK, I believe it was in 1837. Does a marriage have to be validated by a govt. or a church.

    The biblical defination of marriage.
    • Genesis 2:24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
    • Matthew 19:5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
    • Mark 10:7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
     
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    Jesus Himself has defined marriage, and his view is the only valid one to go by!
     
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    Thats fine if you are born again -
    But if you are an atheist - then it is the govt who would be the valid source.
     
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    That is a ridiculous idea. So if you are an atheist Scripture is irrelevant to you? I know in their mind it is but not in reality.
     
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    Why would an atheists use the Bible as a reference.
    and what do you mean that the Bible in reality is relevant to an atheist?

    Sure, he is a sinner whether he is an atheist or not - but otherwise......
     
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    I never said they would.

    We are under God's law whether we believe or not.
     
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    Now I am suddenly reminded of the Steve Martin bluegrass tune, "Atheists don't have no songs" (Google it and listen for a good chuckle).
     
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    in a sense they are - but remember the god of this world is the Devil -....
     
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    But that of putting God front and center of your life from marriage to work , family, career, etc.
    No matter what as He will always have a say in what you do.
    Yes it will involve tough choices and challenges but choosing the way and will of the Lord will help out.
     
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    Yes, but Jesus is still Lord over all, and any society works best with it agrees and implements what He proscribes for human sexuality and family units!
     
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