When Slavery would have ended

Slavery WAS on the way out til the cotton gin was invented. That made cotton VERY profitable, especially when it could be raised, picked, ginned, & bailed by almost-free labor.

 

It is difficult, if not impossible, for people in the U.S. to come to the truth 'historically' of the institution of slavery and the role it played in the War between the States. How much more impossible to agree on it's impact based on the assumption that the South had won.

Slavery in the South would have existed as long as it was needed to support the economy. Once industrialization reached the point where it wasn't needed, then it would be gone. Just like it had been in the North.

The question then becomes, what to do with the former black slaves? When it was no longer profitable in the North, they could sell their slaves South, and not lose any money. If it became no longer profitable in the South, the South would have no place to sell the slaves. What then?

Quantrill

 

When emancipation came, many former slaves were forced to leave their former massa's property, with nothing but the clothes they were wearing. A few lucky ones were hired by their mormer massas as paid workers, & some with skills found work in shops & factories. But many were reduced to beggars.

A reasonable number went "out west" to become cowboys But the majority became menial workers, getting part-time work such as garbagemen, janitors, lawn-cutters, heavy labor, etc. The notion that they were good only for that type of work, or as entertainers, has persisted to this very day in some places! That's part of the subtle racism that's somewhat prevalent in the USA today.

 

When did the emancipation you speak of take place?

Quantrill

 

When each seceded state rejoined the Union, as slavery was outlawed in the Union.

 

What do you mean slavery was outlawed in the Union? You say slavery was outlawed in the Union? Well, yes, at the end of the war and the passing of the 13th amendment it was outlawed in the Union. That includes Northern states also. Up until that time there were Northern slave states.

When Fort Sumter was being attacked by South Carolina, April 12, 1861, there were eight slave states in the Union. Virginia, Tenn., Ark., North Carolina, Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri. West Virginia would be added as a slave state during the war. Later, Virginia, Tenn., and North Carolina would join the Confederacy. But Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, Kentucky, and West Virginia remained slave states throughout the war. (Slavery, Gen Kizer, Jr., Charleston Athenaeum Press, 2014, p. 25-26)

So you're statement in post #(4) where you speak of that 'subtle racism' and the terrible plight of the negro slave after emancipation, is the fault of the Northern states. Not the South. The North wanted to free the slaves all at once with no plan as to what to do with the freed negro. And they promised the negro the moon, and he believed them. Then they abandoned him.

Quantrill

 

And so the Ds have continued their patronizing attitude toward blacks to the present. Though many have finally realized that they (blacks) just traded one plantation for another when they trusted the Ds.

 

During the time of the War between the States, the political parties were not the same as today. The South was solid Democrat and the North was mostly Republican. Republican was the party of Lincoln. Today, it is the North which is mostly Democrat and the South is Republican.

The Democratic party became the home of liberal, atheistic, beliefs. And the Republican party became the home of conservative and Christian beliefs.

But you are correct that the blacks traded one plantation for another. They were used by the North to make war against the South. Promised 40 acres and a mule of land cut up from the Southern whites. All in hopes of creating a Republican voting block in the South. Of course all blacks would vote Republican back then.

It is complicated.

Quantrill

 

!n 1870, before senators were elected by popular vote, the GOP state senate in Mississippi elected Hiram revels to be the first black US senator, to finish the term of his predecessor who'd resigned in 1861 when Miss. seceded. he served one year, then accepted the Presidence of Alcorn A&M, now known as Alcorn State.

When I was a kid, the "Solid South" was almost all Dem, but that was before that party degenerated into Socialists & Communists.

 

Slavery was indeed on the way out. It was actually proven post civil war that the share cropper system was more profitable than the slave system. Slave owners were beginning to see this pre civil war. Maintaining slaves was very expensive.

 

On the way out and I believe would have ended by mid 1880's. Slavery was much too expensive.