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Featured Where did Ellen White Get her Revelations from?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Yeshua1, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    (Bolding mine) I was wondering Bob why Adventist do not heed the Lord's message? There are quite a few Adventist churches established throughout San Francisco, as well as in many other wicked cities. Unless you guys believe San Francisco is no longer as Sodom and Gomorrah.
     
  2. BobRyan

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    We are told that the cities need the Gospel - to minister the Gospel to the people in the cities but to locate our facilities like schools, hospitals, institutions outside the cities.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    You are "quoting you again" -

    I guess you already knew that.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Bobryan, when the SDA starts a hospital is it with the intent that NO DRUGS will be given to patients?

    Do SDA's use antibiotics and other drugs for things like high blood pressure or cholesterol?

    Why the silence in response to my questions? :wavey:

    Could it possibly be that you see that EGW forbidding drinking tea because it is a "drug" is a FALSE REVELATION?
     
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  5. BobRyan

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    Drugs and anesthesia are both used in hospitals - obviously - that includes drugs derived from opium.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid

    But the wild equivocation that would use that as an "excuse" to use drugs for fun, to self-modify your own nervous system, because you simply think God does not care etc - violates 1Cor 3 and 6.

    obviously.

    Most people would not need Ellen White to explain this part to them. But the dangers of meat eating, of so-called "medicated cigarettes" used in the 19th century as a so-called treatment of various lung diseases, of drugs like caffeine ,of enclosing patients in dark rooms as a treatment for bronchitis and other diseases. Well that took a direct message from God to a prophet to correct in the 19th century state of medicine.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Where are you getting all of this?

    My question is how is tea harmful to the soul as your false prophet claims?

    How about a direct answer that doesn't pretend a different question?
     
  7. Yeshua1

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    Do you deny any of her extra biblical false heretical "prophecies" or not?
     
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    So are you saying there are no Adventist churches or families established in any cities around this country or around the world?
     
  9. BobRyan

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    Certainly not.

    Just as I am not saying that "there are no Christians on the planet that might show dishonor to parents now and then".

    But I still find the 5th commandment to be valid and binding on the saints - in true "Baptist Confession of Faith" section 19 fashion.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  10. BobRyan

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    You are "quoting you" again and each time you do that you are pretty much "dead wrong".

    So nothing new when you do that.

    Did I give some sort of sign that I thought that "this time" it is actually working for your argument?

    I was hoping not to do that - if I did.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Originally Posted by targus [​IMG]
    Bobryan, when the SDA starts a hospital is it with the intent that NO DRUGS will be given to patients?


    Ahhh "the facts" - I just love 'em.

    Caffeine is a drug - as it turns out.

    The part that we all just saw from "the facts above" are that drugs are not good "for the soul" unless you are going under the knife or in some other dire situation.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    So according to bobryan...

    Something like tea which can have positive health effects is harmful to the soul because it isn't prescribed by a doctor...

    Then it must follow that abortion is not harmful to the soul because it is prescribed by SDA doctors. :laugh:
     
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    hint -

    I did not write that - nor did Ellen White.

    Your objection is with the facts themselves.

    As you probably know by now.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    My objection is to what the false prophet did write - that drinking tea is harmful to the soul.

    You have not adequately explained just how that can be...

    Tea can have positive health effects.

    Tea does not alter one's senses as alcohol consumption can.

    Tea is not harmful like the other drugs that you want to compare it to such as LSD. I still have to laugh at that particular ridiculous statement on your part.

    Please explain exactly the harm that is done to the souls of a couple of ladies sitting down and having a cup of tea.
     
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    There is no safe level of drug use. Use of any drug always carries some risk—even medications can produce unwanted side effects. It is important to be careful when taking any type of drug.
    Short-term effects
     
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    Tea is not a drug...

    And you need to stop drinking the SDA Kool-Aid. :laugh:
     
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    First i have to inform you that Caffeine is a drug - and now that tea has caffeine not only in the 19th century but very often still to this very day depending on where you get it

    ... really?? You're making it that easy??
     
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    BTW - earlier on this thread --


    That one is coming around for you as answer - again.
     
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    Answer again is right.

    I have given you an answer.

    There were four other major earthquakes in that area in the three years preceding her idiotic prediction.

    Another earthquake happened four year later.

    WHAT A BIG SURPRISE.

    How many different times are you going to post this same nonsense?

    STOP SPAMMING THE BOARD!!
     
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    Ellen White is a false prophet.

    There have been Sabbathkeepers aall the time before her.

    Bible is enough and we don't need Ellen White.
     
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