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Where is the Perfect Bible?

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    But WHICH KJV? I am now using the AV1611 and find its phonetic spellings and lilt to be refreshing to read and renewing my love for the AV language (even if I don't like the limited Greek/Latin documentary basis).

    My Scofield is 1769 KJV and quite different. Just seriously asking WHICH you prefer.
     
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  2. Michael52

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    I guess there may be some who take an MV stand, but it would seem to be rare. The major pevailing positions for debate are: KJVO vs. NON-KJVO.
    Correct. Nor would He wait until 1611.
    Thank you for your kind tolerance and may God bless you in your continuance. [​IMG]
     
    #22 Michael52, Sep 9, 2004
  3. AVL1984

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  4. Dr. Bob

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    AVL, that was astute. Thanks for sharing your answer on "Where is the Perfect Bible?"

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #24 Dr. Bob, Sep 9, 2004
  5. AVL1984

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    I wondered if anyone would catch the humor! LOL

    ;)

    AVL1984
     
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  6. Terry_Herrington

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    I will assume you are asking this question to me. I use the Thompson Chain Reference Bible mostly, although I do use the Scofield as well as the King James Study Bible. I also have a Cambridge KJV that I like quiet a bit.
     
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  7. HankD

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    Ditto Dr. Bob.

    HankD
     
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  8. TC

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    The perfect (complete, not lacking anything) Bible is the one I hold in my hand. It doesn't matter if it's the KJV, NKJV, HCSB, ESV, or any other faithful translation. I own it and can read it whenever I want.
     
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    Amen TC.

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  10. Greeker

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    Dear Terry and others,

    Most KJVO folks reject the earlier manuscripts or critical text. Especially the Siniaticus and the Vaticanus. The reason they reject these manuscripts is because they vary from the KJV in some places. To accept these variations would show that the KJV is not inerrant. They attack anyone who disagrees with them.

    The perfect Bible was the original autographs.
     
    #30 Greeker, Sep 9, 2004
  11. Trotter

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    I agree totally, Greeker.

    By the way, Welcome to the BaptistBoard.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
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  12. Bro Tony

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    Welcome Greeker,

    With a name like that you will not be welcomed by most KJVO folks. I look forward to hearing more of your input.

    Bro Tony
     
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  13. mjwegs42

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    So you are saying there is a perfect Bible? Which one, which text is perfect? Which original autograph?
     
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    Yeah? Then why did He 'bless other versions (scores of them) for hundreds of years,' then 'all of a sudden' decide we need the KJV "in order to correct what He has overlooked all this time"?
     
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    So you are saying there is a perfect Bible? Which one, which text is perfect? Which original autograph? [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]MJ, I like analogies so I am going to try one on you.

    A farm foreman employs migrant Mexican labor on his farm. He has 3 bilingual supervisors that work for him.

    One morning his boss calls him in and gives him instructions for work. He in turn passes those instructions along in English to the supervisors using his own words that clearly and accurately transmit the message of his boss. The supervisors then go to their subordinates and translate the Boss' word using 3 different sets of spanish words that accurately transmitted the original message.

    The workers then go out and perform the work with complete understanding to the exact intent of the Boss. Would it be accurate to say only one group had the "word" or did they all have the perfect (ie. complete) "word" of the Boss?
     
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  16. mjwegs42

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    Scott,

    I enjoy analogies also. But oddly enough I use to work on a farm in Hamlin, NY with migrant workers. One of them spoke English. When the forman spoke he had to translate it to me. I tell you this because your anaolgy fails. I never had the perfect word. Either way, this analogy neither proves my stance or yours. Just thought it was funny that you used the whole migrant thing. I wanted to share my experience with you. It was indeed the most confusing job I have ever worked.
     
    #36 mjwegs42, Sep 10, 2004
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    Another similar analogy:

    "Now to the latter we answer; that we do not deny, nay we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession, (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. As the King's speech, which he uttereth in Parliament, being translated into French, Dutch, Italian, and Latin, is still the King's speech, though it be not interpreted by every Translator with the like grace, nor peradventure so fitly for phrase, nor so expressly for sense, everywhere. For it is confessed, that things are to take their denomination of the greater part; and a natural man could say, Verum ubi multa nitent in carmine, non ego paucis offendor maculis, etc. [Horace.] A man may be counted a virtuous man, though he have made many slips in his life, (else, there were none virtuous, for in many things we offend all) [James 3:2] also a comely man and lovely, though he have some warts upon his hand, yea, not only freckles upon his face, but also scars. No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it. For whatever was perfect under the Sun, where Apostles or Apostolic men, that is, men endued with an extraordinary measure of God's spirit, and privileged with the privilege of infallibility, had not their hand?"
     
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  18. mjwegs42

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    natters,

    Anolgies are fun and can be great for teaching. But let's remember 2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

    I do beleive this verse say's "holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." Please tell me where in the bible God says he will preserve a Kings speach to Parliament.
     
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  19. natters

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    mjwegs42 said "Please tell me where in the bible God says he will preserve a Kings speach to Parliament."

    Well, that particular example came from my 1611 KJV.
     
    #39 natters, Sep 10, 2004
  20. mjwegs42

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    What Verse?
     
    #40 mjwegs42, Sep 10, 2004
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