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Which churches are growing?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Salty, Jul 7, 2018.

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  1. Walter

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    The Catholic Church is growing fast where I live. Fastest growing church worldwide according to the stats.
     
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    fastest growing non christian church...
     
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    #123 Walter, Jul 22, 2018
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    No, Paul would accuse you of watering down his Gospel and would enthusiastically endorse the basics of the Catholic presentation of the Gospel which you attack without even engaging its particulars biblically. I have laid out those particulars in my thread and you have no answer to that presentation.
     
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    The Council of trent is very excplit that ANY who teaches the Pauline view on Justifcation is teachable damnable heresy!

    If they agree with paul, where did Paul mention purgetory? Where he mention have to agree and use 7 sacraments of Grace?
     
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    Since you (as usual) ignore any link that is posted of previous evangelicals that have LEFT to become Catholic after much study, I will re-post a tidbit of what you ignored. BTW, you want to know where Paul mentions Purgatory? Show me chapter and verse where he mentions the word Trinity, please.

    'What I found was an amazing unanimity on the central doctrines of the faith. Not that the early Fathers agreed on every point-there were development of doctrine and theological controversies throughout Christian history. But what was the Church like during the first four centuries of Christianity?

    Ordained bishops headed the local churches, with the bishop of Rome (Peter's successor) having primacy over the other bishops; the Church celebrated the Mass and considered it a representation of Christ's once-for-all sacrifice on the cross; the Church honored Mary, said prayers for the dead, and believed in final purification after death which we now call purgatory. [The following citations are from St. Augustine (paragraph numbers from Jurgens'Faith of the Early Fathers ): primacy of the Bishop of Rome: 1418, 1507, 1862; Mass as a sacrifice: 1424, 1844, 1977; honoring Mary: 1518, 1643, 1644, 1794, 1974(d); prayers for the dead: 1513, 1516, 1780, 1930, 1934; Purgatory: 1467, 1544, 1776, 1920.] I did not find the early Fathers teaching salvation by faith alone, the Bible as the sole rule of faith, or the " Pre-tribulational Rapture."
     
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    The Gospel of Christ is NOT the one held by Rome, period.
    The Croiss of CXhrist gives a sinenr immediate and complete Justification, NO need for any of that Sacramental Grcae to get saved!
     
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    According to the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life’s 2007 Religious Landscape Survey, roughly 8 percent of Catholics were raised in other churches as evangelicals. This compares with 9 percent of evangelical Christians who were raised Catholic. Not much difference.
     
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    A shame its apostate.
     
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    The fastest growing churches are all dubious at best, as its Rome/JW/Mormons/Sda/ and the cvharasmatic chaos word of faith groups!
     
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    Growth has NEVER been a sign of God's approval! Such thinking is as my marine friends say, "Stinking thinking."

    Rather, FEW find the narrow way that leads to righteousness.
     
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    2 Timothy 4:3, gives to us what kind of churches are booming now, the ones that are man centered, not God centered!
     
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    Yes, pre trib rapture... now there is the sour point ( the underlying core problem ) that your detractors are protecting.
     
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    For pitty sake man, who ever said it was?!?
     
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    Post #121
     
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    Six Hour Warning
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    Well, if you are spreading the Gospel and disciplining the converts, how can your church not grow. I think many here are looking for excuses for having a non growing church. A church that is not growing is not fulfilling the Great Commission.
    The exception to that might be isolated geographic area. For the most part, if thousands live within a few miles of your church and its not busting at the seams, the reason is your church is lazy.
     
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    Yea he just answered the op... so what?
     
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    I’d add, out of touch with the community.
     
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