Which group is easiest?

Spoken like a true liberal. God's commands come second to individuals' rights

Besides all "maybe" and "if" situations, I pray my children will know how to react in those situations because of the way they were raised. Irrelevant to the discussion, though.

Yeah, right. God says to share the Gospel with everyone...Magnetic Poles says "no, respect their rights".

I wonder who wins out in this one...

 

The correct way to reach the little ones is to reach their parents. You are the type of Baptist that give us all a bad name as pushy, "our way or the highway" people. No wonder many view us as intolerant and arrogant. Attitudes like that make me ashamed to be associated with the name. Like it or not, if you desire respect of your own rights, you owe the same to your neighbor. That is part of the command to love your neighbor as yourself.

 

You don't know me from Adam. You don't know if I'm "pushy" or not, so do not slander me. I'm as far from pushy as they come.

If a parent willingly (not by extortion) wants to bring their child to our church, they are agreeing to hear what we have to say. They will hear the Gospel preached at our church.

Take your liberal, God defying garbage some place else. If you don't like being a baptist or the baptist name, join another denomination. I can't believe you would try to persuade other Christians to "respect the rights of your neighbors" over obeying God. Sickening.

 

Read what I have said. I have been talking about the context not of people attending your church.

What is sickening is that you put shoving your faith on other people's children over obeying God vis-a-vis loving your neighbor as yourself. Truly, you and Mr. Bin Laden appear to have a lot in common.

 

OK, children....

Let's play nice before I witness to you without the permission of your parents...

Take a breather

 

NOOOOOOO!!! Not THAT!! :laugh:

 

Absolutely not. The majority of people, Christian or not, would freak if someone who practiced witchcraft approached their children. Wiccans believe (or often believe) they ARE Witches. You know this.

Wiccans have no rights to be alone witnessing to any child while in this demonic state of mind. They do not get "granted" these rights to witness to my child or any other because of something I did, such as witness to their children.

Let's talk about respect. Respect means appreciation or honor. I have enough respect for the parents to save their children from eternal damnation, even though they do not hold a similar respect for their own as I do. Knowing the parents are so mentally ill that they actually believe they are Witches, I hold enough respect for their children to watch for abuse issues also.

At best, these parents believe they personally hold supernatural powers over other people. That's pretty frightening.

Your view concerning the child's religious training is twisted. In this situation, the parents perrogative means squat. If we are able, you and I must have respect for their parents mental illness. We must also respect the parents & children's well being on earth and eternity.

 

Coming from a moderate calvinists position....I would have to say that the GOATS are the hardest and the lost sheep are the easiest to witness too.

 

I would hope "my faith" is the same faith as yours! Wow!

Comparing me and Bin Laden? Because I would obey God? If I "love my neighbor as myself" I want them to know what I know. I can care less if this offends their "rights". What are their "rights"? To die and go to hell without anybody bothering them? You have some serious issues...

 

That's because the goats are baaaaaad.

 

Children are the easiest to witness to. I find in general that it is easier to witness to younger than older and that the older a man (especially) gets, the harder it is to win him.

Next are inmates.

Last for me are the swelled "learn-ed" I oft work with.

 

[sarcasm] Oh yes, we should by all means wait until they are indoctrinated by the world and manipulated by heathenistic doctrines by which they will develop the world's critical thinking skills... then witness to them. Don't pull them out of the fire too early folks! [/sarcasm]

 

I can speak from personal experience "on the other side of the fence", as it were. I was brought up from early childhood to attend services and Sunday School in the local Church of England parish church. Such churches vary tremendously; some are quite evangelical, some are "liberal", some are very ritualistic, having mass, calling the clergyman "Father So-and-so", designating him as a "priest", confessing one's sins to such a "priest", and so on, very much like a Roman Catholic church. The church I went to was like that. But the main thing was (as far as the subject of this thread is concerned), that I was told that I had been made a Christian at my baptism as a baby. So of course, if a genuine Christian started talking to me about becoming a Christian, I would answer, "I'm already a Christian." But I knew nothing about repentance, or about knowing Jesus Christ. Thankfully, a friend didn't give up, and, far more important, neither did God. Eventually I came to see from His Word that I was not a Christian, and I needed to trust in our glorious Saviour, repenting of my sin.

It was only after my conversion that I saw the benefit of knowing certain passages of Scripture by heart. As a choirboy, I had for years sung the psalms, and many of the anthems the choir sang were pure Scripture.

So I would say that it can be more difficult to witness to people who think they are Christians already.

 

I agree. It is much harder to witness to a 'good' man than a 'bad' one.

Children are open to just about everything and Satan wants them. Therefore we need to witness to them.

What did Jesus say about the little children? Did he ask their parent's permission to talk to them or did he tell the disciples to let them come unto Him? Did he worry about what others would think? I think not. He witnessed to everyone, regardless of age.

 

I don't know about the Northern states, but here in the South (I am in southern KY, we consider ourselves South, and we are part of the nearly now defunct Bible Belt) nearly everyone we witness to is saved. Now they can't tell you from what, by what gospel, or even when it happened, but they are saved. 90% of my home town is saved, from what we have encountered. Of course, most of these are from going to church, water baptism, good works, and they know of Jesus.

 

Do you really think to butting into this conversation to take a sarcastic jab at MP is necessary? I mean, it's not like he is advocating child abuse!

To remind you, there is/was a post in the Mod forum which was pulled concerning a conversation between you, me, MP and another poster who admitted to enduring physical abuse, including bruising all over his body. Your advice? "You should start listening to your father". This included another sentence meaning his father knew more than he did. I could go cut and paste it, but I won't bother. I also won't post the controversial pic of young children, barely over toddler age holding sings advocating the fear of God while yelling at passerbys. You remember, the pic taken by MP from your churches website, the one you defend so strongly.

To see your words advocating the abuse of women, it is in the "What is a women's role?" thread located in the Poll section. It includes calling women names like "a vile wretch of a sinner" when they aren't in subjection of their man. Quotes by your Pastor you call "Neat quotes"

Advocating child abuse is sickening. So your advice concerning child rearing means about as much as a Witches advice, it means squat.

 

Do us all a favor and put me back on ignore, or quit whining.

And those aint my kids, in case someone thought as much.

 

I never said those were your kids, read my post.

 

True enough. My apology. I read "young" as "yours". I will correct my last post.

 

Fixed.

Also, I didn't jump in with sarcasm, there is a post before the sarcastic one.

Furthermore, there is no refuting the truth found even in my sarcasm.