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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Nov 8, 2014.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    Very interesting Salty, thanks for the post. Thanks for ignoring the chaff and getting to the wheat. Now we are getting to the OP, which to me all about.

    Which of these factions will be the most influential in directing policies?

    Will fear of a Tea Party backlash give the extremely conservative more influence than their number would suggest?

    The answer to these two questions will determine much on the 2016 election and the future of the GO
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  2. Salty

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    The House needs 218 votes to pass a bill.
    The 3 conservative factions has 228 votes.

    I don't think its a fear of a Tea party backlash - as they tend to be Tea Party members or are very sympatric to their cause.

    But what does the Tea Party actually stand for?
    From Wiki

    Keep in mind that there is no central leadership.
    In addition, the movement is not a new political group but simply a re-branding of traditional Republican candidates and policies. An October 2010 Washington Post canvass of local Tea Party organizers found 87% saying "dissatisfaction with mainstream Republican Party leaders

    From TeaParty.org
    There are 15 non-negotiable core beliefs
    but not one about abortion, same gender marriage, or other social issues.
     
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    This is not a case of the GOP winning so much as it is a case of the Democrats losing. Syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer called this election the "worst, wall-to-wall, national, unmistakable, unequivocal shellacking that you will ever see in a midterm election." I wouldn't take the rhetoric that far, but there is a truth in his statement.

    The policies of the Left were soundly rejected in some places, fairly rejected in others, and greeted with abject apathy in others. President Obama said that while he wasn't on the ballot his policies were. Judging by the results I'd say his policies were outright rejected by the majority of voters.

    Here in Georgia, the Governors race and the Senate race were supposed to be close, likely both requiring a run-off. Obama touted Michelle Nunn, saying that electing her would mean Democrats would retain control of the Senate. On several news broadcasts, Democrat pundits and strategists said they foresaw the Democrats holding the Senate and gaining ground in the House.

    Nunn lost the Senate race to GOP candidate David Perdue 53% to 45%. In the Governors race, incumbent Nathan Deal (R) defeated Jason Carter (D) by the same margin. In the House races in which a GOP candidate was running against a Democrat, the Democrats won the 2nd District 59% to 41%. Otherwise, in the House races the GOP won, the average margin of victory was 65.8% to 34.2%. The 9th District was the most lopsided, as Doug Collins won 80.7% of the vote. The 12th District was the closest, at 54.8% to 45.2% in favor of the GOP.

    While the talking heads were projecting Democrats to gain ground in Georgia, they by and large lost big, and it was mostly a repudiation of the policies of Barack Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi.
     
  4. poncho

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    Doesn't matter which party is in power the people always get the same thing. A continuation of the warfare/welfare state, bigger more intrusive government, more debt and less freedom.

    I guess we just love to be lied to robbed and abused.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3-_41M6-os
     
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    Exactly right!

    The GOP is united for once and full of fresh young faces and full of true representatives of groups that Democrats once thought that they totally controlled.

    The mission is to stop Obama.

    The Libertarians lost big time, also, and the paleocons are extinct.

    As you say, if the GOP cannot stop Obama in amnesty, in the war against coal, and in Obamacare, the GOP will be out again in two years.

    As you say, Righteous Dude, the economy is on intensive care and Obama has order a new war in Iraq and bungled foreign affairs across the board, causing the USA to be despised overseas for total lack of leadership.
     
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    All the more reason to let the architects of endless wars and interventions have another crack at it. USA! USA! USA!
     
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    I don't know about you hypocritical Yankees but here in South Carolina we Republicans elected a black Senator, Tim Scott, with about 60% of the vote. Four years ago Tim Scott beat the son of Strom Thurmond and the son of Carrol Campbell to win the Republican nomination for the House and went on to win the election. A Republican woman of Indian descent was re-elected as governor. And then a young black woman whose parents emigrated from Haiti was elected to the House from Utah. I am sure that you, CRABBIE, like all the hypocrites in the NAACP and the Black Congressional Caucus, consider all these people to be "Oreo's"!

    New Mexico re-elected a Latino woman as Republican governor and Nevada re-elected a Latino as Republican Governor. And then Republicans kicked democrat governors butt in Maryland, Illinois, and Massachusetts. I would also note that Governor Abbott of Texas received about 45% of the Latino vote while beating that rabid-pro-slaughter-of-the-unborn-female "what's-her-name"! In Colorado Senator Cory Gardener kicked Mark-"Uterus"-Udall's butt getting about half the Latino and women's vote.

    As for the Republican Party being predominantly white that is only natural. The majority of people in this country are white so it is appropriate that the Majority Party in this country contain the Majority ethnic group.

    The truth is CRABBY that the only reason that power-mad-hypocritical-democrats care about Blacks or any ethnic minority is these elitists want their vote. Furthermore, the slimy democrat party has rode the "pro-slaughter of the unborn" horse into the ground. May God grant the slimy democrat party that which they so richly deserve.
     
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    Looks like to me that there was just enough Tea Party folks elected to almost guarantee that Republicans will be loved locally and vilified nationally.
     
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    Who are the Tea Party members that were elected? I can't think of any.
     
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    I think it was a wave election where folks dumped democrats and didn't worry about the Tea party.
     
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    Here in New York, back in 2010, the Republican candidate for Governor also ran on the TEA Party ballot.
    Mr.'s Paladino vote total was:
    Republican.........1,289,817.....83.32%
    Conservative.........232,215.....15.01%
    TEA Party...............25,825.......1.67
    Total.................1,547,857....100.00

    BTW, Paladino lost the election to Cuomo
    2,910,866 to 1,547,857.
    In addition 194,386 votes were cast for other third party candidates.


    This year, the Tea Party did not even have a State wide ballot line. In addition, I did not hear anything about the Tea Party folks even endorsing anyone.

    You have a good point
     
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    It's The Economy, and They're Not Stupid

    The sharp rebuke to the Obama administration delivered by the mid-term elections should not be construed as an endorsement of the GOP, which remains as unpopular as ever. Rather, as has been the case in the last few election cycles, voter revolts have hinged on continued dissatisfaction with the strength of the economy and the diminishing financial prospects of ordinary citizens. Given the apparent improvements in the economy, this fact continues to baffle the media which have concluded that Democrats simply failed to effectively communicate the successes that the Administration has achieved. Fortune Magazine offered a more complex conclusion that we have a good economy, but it's just not the kind that benefits the middle class. I believe the truth is far simpler: Voters are dissatisfied with the economy because it is bad and getting worse. Although this unpleasant reality can be masked by economic doublespeak and government accounting gimmicks, the truth comes out in the ballot box.

    http://www.europac.net/commentaries/its_economy_and_theyre_not_stupid
     
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    Great post!

    The Democrats lost all of the coal mining regions, including a long-standing Democrat stronghold in southern Indiana.
     
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    The senator from Iowa right off the top of my head. Also, Lt. Governor from Texas and if not mistaken there was about five or six elected to House of Representatives. I could look it up, but frankly, I'm not all that interested.
     
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    Joni Ernst will make them squeal but she is a freshman Senator so I don't think that she will set the world on fire. She is smart and funny. She endured the insults of Sen. Harkin who made sexist remarks for which he offered a lame apology. Harkin was a tired stale liberal Democrat who needed to go. He probably helped cause the defeat of the Democrat/so-called Independent with his stupid campaign help. I can't imagine anyone wanting Harkin and his war on women around anymore.

    As for those in the house, I suppose that there are more Libertarians than Tea Party types but with a majority of about 60 seats in a House of 435, there are a lot of back benchers.

    The Tea Party has no real national organization and it was hard hit by the IRS per Obama's orders.
     
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