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White supremism

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Aug 21, 2006.

  1. DeeJay

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    Main Entry: ref·u·gee
    Pronunciation: "re-fyu-'jE
    Function: noun
    : an individual seeking refuge or asylum; especially : an individual who has left his or her native country and is unwilling or unable to return to it because of persecution or fear of persecution (as because of race, religion, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion)

    evacuee
    n : a person who has been evacuated from a dangerous place
     
  2. Filmproducer

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    I agree. The problem is some people do not care that some words are offensive when they are used incorrectly. I pointed out numerous times that we should not use the term refugee, but it was to no avail with a lot of people on this board. They could not understand why black Americans would find it offensive, so they used it anyway. For this reason, I agree with Daisy. Anti-pcism is the first step to becoming a racist, or sexist, etc. It is going to far when you do not care that you are purposefully, and blatantly, being disrespectful and offensive. (Again this does not mean a basic disagreeance with one's lifestyle, race, gender, etc.)
     
  3. fromtheright

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    rbell raises a good point about the SPLC. I respect what Morris Dees did to shut down Robert Shelton and the UKA several years ago, but SPLC attracts donors if they can make folks believe that hate groups are widespread.

    I also appreciate what Psalm 100 said earlier about the mililtary not encouraging racism. In fact, from my experience in the Navy (I can't speak for the other branches), the U.S. military truly seems the most color-blind institution in the country. Quality of the person in the uniform has nothing to do with skin color.
     
  4. El_Guero

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    I will speak for the Army.

    There are those in the military that have a hidden agenda. Usually 'PC' and I think it is called anti-'PC' types on this board run amuk. Those that disgrace the uniform are few.

    The large part of the Army was a solidly color-blind organization. Were there times that some things were done because of race - yes, but no one considered the actions to be racially motivated. (Our troops of African-american heritage were targeted to be killed while I was overseas - Orders were given to maintain their safety).

    I thank God for the equality of our military and pray that some day soon our entire culture will reflect that heritage.

     
  5. El_Guero

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    For a moment I tho't I must have mis-spoken. I went back and read what was written, and then I realized - your statement was standard PC stuff.

    Being against what God tells us to be against is what God has commanded.

    If you don't like that - take it up with God. He clearly stated that we are to be against Homosexuality. You can tell me that I am intolerant - but, that will not change God's Word.

    If I was in sin - I would want someone to point out the problem - in a non-confrontational manner, and show me the solution to the problem - Jesus.

    IMHO.

    Maybe in your world . . .

    But, in God's Word, we are not to be sexist or racist. That is sad when people abuse God and His Word and call it 'PC'.
     
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    "Those who use the term in a derogatory fashion often express a concern about the potential dilution of speech and the failure to articulate important societal problems. They argue that the political criticism of diction may inhibit freedom of speech, particularly the expression of opinions that risk offending some group. It is often suggested that politically correct speech constitutes an excessive indulgence of some particular minority group, and that it is used to avoid acknowledging any misconduct or shortcomings of individuals belonging to such a group."

    "Political correctness is the natural continuum from the party line. What we are seeing once again is a self-appointed group of vigilantes imposing their views on others. It is a heritage of communism, but they don't seem to see this." - Doris Lessing

    "It is silly to call fat people gravitationally challenged -- a self-righteous fetishism of language which is no more than a symptom of political frustration." - Terry Eagleton
     
  7. Filmproducer

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    Wow, did you even read my subsequent posts? First of all, I NEVER once said that we should be against God's commandments. If you were to actually read, and understand, my posts then you would realize that 1. I have agreed that intolerance does not include disagreeing with those who are going against God's commandments, as long as it is done in a CHRIST LIKE MANNER (read rbell's post on the definition, which I publicly agreed with), and 2. I agree that we are not to be racist, sexist, etc., but I also say that we are not supposed to purposefully, and blatantly, offend others when their complaint has nothing to do with God's commands. (i.e., continuing to call those displaced from NO "refugees", even after it has been pointed out that it is offensive, and even justifying using the term by claiming that those who are offended are being too sensitive). Do you get it now?
     
  8. El_Guero

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    Those were pretty good posts. Focused on the problems surrounding the OP.

    It is scary that there are those out there profiting on the 'race card'. And it is scary that there really are those out there that are racists.

    I want to think that our country will continue to get better. It would be nice to put behind us the racism and all of the other garbage that goes along with it.


     
  9. El_Guero

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    Rbell

    You brought up good points around the discussion of the issue. And equivocating God's biblical truth with hatred is at the core of secular misunderstanding of believers.

    Wayne


     
  10. The Galatian

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    There are virtually no Protestant groups left who will tolearate those people. A Bob Jones here and there, but that's about it.

    Consequently, you see the Klan and related organizations now rejecting Christianity for "Odinism" and other fake pagan religions.
     
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    On the other hand, the culture of the USofA has become less civilized since 1964. Even "Christian" music has become . . . trash.
     
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    What is objectionable about "refugee?"
     
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    It doesnt take PC to care about someone. I find nothing PC about the way Jesus dealt with people. When he ministered to the Samaritan Woman he did it alone but didnt mince words about her lifestyle. When he ministered to the adulterous woman he refused to let the hypocritical pharisees railroad her but he didnt fail to mention "Go and sin no more".

    Political Correctness is a secular, and godless tool to justify and defend perverted behavior. Love people but deviant behavior must be dealt with.
     
  14. El_Guero

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    Amen - Amen!

     
  15. DeeJay

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    There are entire "Christian identiy" white suppremist groups. "World Chruch of the Creator" for one. A lot of WS groups are moving to Astru and Odenisem but that are alot more who call themselfs christians.
     
  16. Marcia

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    DeeJay is right. Odinism and Asatru are Norse Pagan religions that are drawing in a lot of white supremacists in the prisons.

    Just last night on PrimeTime, they had an update on those 2 cute, blonde girls, Lamb and Lynxx, who sing songs praising Hitler, Hess, white supremacy, etc. at white supremacist rallies.

    They also showed one white suprmacist musician and his group going to a heavy metal concert where they passed out flyers and some of their CD's of white power music in order to recruit young people.

    The white supremacy stuff is not dead, sadly.
     
  17. The Galatian

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    If I had a choice between a world where Christian denominations justified the abuse of other humans because of the color of their skin, and a world where people were free and the music was trash, I'd take the latter.

    So would Christ, I think. At least He seems to think so in Matthew.
     
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    I don't know that Jesus would agree with trash music, but I would rather be free of racism than to have good music.
     
  19. The Galatian

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    This is starting to weird me out. We agree again.
     
  20. El_Guero

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    Galtatian

    It started to wierd me out, then I realized that Christians have to agree on some things . . .

    :thumbs:
     
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