Who Created God???

God is the First Cause, and not because.....God always is, was and ever shall be.

Cheers,

Jim

 

God is the "I AM"----always was, is now & always shall be.

Bro Tony

 

"I AM" says it all.

 

I AM

To bad people cannot conceive anything they do not understand. Faith is all they need.

To some everything must have a beginning and an end. In the beginning God Created in the End God will bring down the new Heavens and Earth.:love2:

Not an end for those who Live the Word but but for those who do not, yikes, I do not not want to be one of them He says He never knew :tear:

People sometimes think to much and the answer is smack dab in there face :tongue3:

 

I guess as humans and with a mind that is free to wander we do think of many things just for the thought of it, but God had no beginning, He has everlasting to everlasting.

 

In all fairness, from the world's view, we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.

I stand by what I first said, that God is the First Cause, beginning and the last, but I have the advantage of believing that scripture is true, and inwardly I have the gift of God's indwelling presence.

We can examine the many attributes that point toward a superior being, and that that superior being is intelligent, but the cosmological argument alone does not prove that existence.

I can debate, and have so debated, with both university students and fellow professors, but in the end, it takes a personal relation with that living God to bring home reality.

This is why the best argument one can give in a debate is not your intellectual prowess, but rather, your testimony, your personal experience with Jesus, the Christ. Establish the Christ and argue backwards to the creation and first causes.

Cheers, and God bless,

Jim

 

AMEN :flower:

 

Abiogenesis is the fairytale told by atheist darwinists who cling to the notion that "THERE IS NO GOD". THEY SEE clearly that if their dream world of "NO GOD" is to be a reality they MUST explain away what only GOD can do -- abiogensis, "spontaneous generation" born again, LIFE springing from non-living environments.

But then every effort to create an actual living cells fails and what are the atheists left with? -- story telling!!

In Romans 1 GOD says that the "invisible attributes of God are CLEARLY SEEN in the THINGS that have been MADE" EVEN for the unbelieving pagan. In fact God says that in light of what is CLEARLY SEEN even by them "they are without excusle -- so PROVING God is not really as hard you might imagine!

AS for eternal God - from everlasting to everlasting -- finite beings can not fathom the infinite -- that too is a "given".

 

Just a sidenote" Charles Darwin never was an atheist, and died confessing a belief in God and the Christ. Perhaps some followers became atheists, but not all those who happen to believe in evolution are atheists.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Those who exchange faith in the Gospel and in sound science for faith in junk-science and the atheist darwinism drummed into the minds of public school children - sometimes turn a blind eye to the author of atheist darwinism - Charles Darwin!

Darwin shows the same "consistent embrace" of the religion of evolutionism instead of the Gospels that Richard Dawkins so clearly shows to be "obvious" to the thinking mind. Clearly and obviously and consistently - evolutionism directs its devotee away from the God of nature whose "invisible attributes are CLEARLY SEEN in the things that have been made" Rom 1 EVEN by unbelieving pagans so that "They are without excuse".

 

Gen 1:1

re'shiyth

used as... beginning, firstfruits, first, chief

'elohiym

used as...God, mighty God

bara (Perfect See)..completed action of the past

used as...create, creator, choose, make


First God. ( re'shiyth 'eth 'elohiym bara........)

That is really all one needs to say. First God ...then creation.

First God.....and creation comes from God.

 

It seems pretty easy that God is the Creator

"FOR in SIX DAYS the Lord CREATED the heavens and the earth and sea and all that is in them and rested the seventh day"

AS opposed to the atheist notion that "life just spontaneously generated all on its own from non-living elements".

Darwin himself finally came to that logical resting place for his atheist doctrines. The guided him predictably to his rejection of the Gospel, the Word of God, the God of the Christian faith!

In Christ,

Bob

 

Sorry, Jim and Bob, but the story that Darwin believed in Christ at the end of his life is one of those popular urban myths passed on by Christians. It seems no one ever checks it out to see what the facts are.

Sadly, this story about Darwin converting has no factual basis. Read this - it explains it all and how this legend became part of a "story" about Darwin.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html

More on this:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i1/darwin_recant.asp

http://www.traviscase.org/Sermons/Appendix/12-LadyHopeStory.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hope.html

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_cul4.htm

So, let's not keep passing this legend on - it makes believers look bad.

 

God is the Creator--He is self-existent & eternal --His Name is I AM

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (Exodus 3:14)

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. (John 8:58)

GOD

"The Lord our God is but one only living and true God; whose subsistence is in and of himself, infinite in being and perfection, whose essence cannot be comprehended by any but himself; a most pure Spirit, invisible ... who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto, who is immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, every way infinite, most holy, most wise, most free, most absolute, working all things according to the counsel of his own immutable and most righteous will for his own glory, most loving, gracious merciful, long-suffering, abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity, transgression, and sin, the rewarder of them that diligently seek him, and withal most just, and terrible in his judgments, hating all sin, and will by no means clear the guilty. ... he is the alone fountain of all being, of whom, through whom, and to whom are all things, and he hath most sovereign dominion over all creatures, to do by them, for them, or upon them, whatsoever himself pleaseth; in his sight all things are open and manifest, his knowledge is infinite, infallible, and independent upon the creature, so as nothing is to him contingent or uncertain; he is most holy in all his counsels, in all his works, and in all his commands; to him is due from angels and men whatsoever worship, service, or obedience, as creatures they owe unto the Creator, and whatever he is further pleased to require of them.

"In this Divine and Infinite Being there are three subsistences, the Father, the Word (or Son), and Holy Spirit, of one substance, power, and eternity, each having the whole divine essence, yet the essence undivided; the Father is of none neither begotten, nor proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father and the Son, all infinite, without beginning, therefore but one God, who is not to be divided in nature and being, but distinguished by several peculiar relative properties and personal relations; which doctrine of the Trinity is the foundation of all our communion with God, and our comfortable dependence on Him" (The Philadelphia Confession of Faith, The Baptist Association at Philadelphia, Sept. 25, 1742).

 

I never said Charles Darwin "converted". He was always a member of the Church of England, and that never changed.

Cheers,

Jim

 

God is, always has been and always will be, everything exists for Him and through Him.

The Bible talks about being joined to the 'Life of God'.

In Christ we have this Life, Christians abide for ever but all else passes away.

Behold....

David

 

My post does not show Darwin "Converting to Christianity"

It shows him being "guided" by the atheist principles central to evolutionism to the point of totally rejecting Christianity.

It is the logical "conclusion" of the path that selects faith in atheist darwinism over the truth.

 

In that post above -

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=822209&postcount=12

We see Darwin -- in his own words - expressing his faith in atheism. But we ALSO See how he shows that this belief in atheism was gradual over time - starting with his Anglican acceptance of the Bible and then predicably lead into atheism by the myths of the brand of evolutionism he adopted -- atheist evolutionism, known today as atheist darwinism.