Who here was saved using MV's?

None of which agree word for word with each other thus disproving your fatally flawed notion that God's Word can only be preserved by a single set of human words.

Actually significantly more evidence is known and useable today. But even if we accepted this premise, you still haven't proven anything close to the idea that the KJV is "God's very words."

I would love to respond to this because I don't think you can ever show that anyone espousing your beliefs has obeyed the scriptural commands to "prove all things" and to use equal balances (no double standards)... however, I can't understand what you are trying to say.

Would you mind clarifying or rephrasing?

If your premises were true, which I am not yet conceding, you still haven't proven or even come close to what you believe about the KJV.

You haven't proven it... you simply say that you know it. That is by definition gnosticism.

Right, which is a direct indictment of you. You persistently ignore facts as they exist in violation of the command to prove all things. You also twist scriptures and put words into God's mouth by applying scriptures to the KJV when there is absolutely no link. And, you employ double standards at every turn in order to support your false beliefs.

I have shown you specifically where your methods of "rationalization" concerning your KJV position are in violation of biblical principles.

If you will point out where you think I have violated a biblical principle then I will either apologize and repent or rebute your charge.

Before you start quoting scriptures about faith which has been your mode in the past, please understand that I have faith in the Bible. I believe in preservation. I simply do not believe the KJV to be the sole manifestation of preservation in English. Why? Because the Bible does not say so and the facts when considered in whole disprove that idea.

Nope. ALL of the mss plus the additional patristic quotes and ancient versions. I actually lean more toward the Majority text position which is different from the TR and CT. It is the TRUE traditional text line.

Right, as opposed to emotionalizing or traditionalizing. God gave us reason so that we can apply the scriptures and scriptural principles to KNOW the truth. God gave us emotions not so we can know the truth but rather react to it.

Exactly! Prove all things!

Try honesty, single mindedness, proving all things, prayerful consideration, submission of ones will to a (sometimes unpleasant) truth, unwillingness to remain ignorant, etc.

Michelle, Where does your "logic and wisdom" come from? The scriptures don't say what you need them to. It all comes from your mind and the minds of other false teachers.

I don't believe anything that I cannot back up with scripture, factual history, or both. If you think I do then please post a specific example and I will respond.

BTW, if your charge is true then every Christian prior to about 1930 or so was guilty along with us. Your belief is a very recent aberration with no history in the body of Christ unless you want to count the Latin Vulgate Only position of the RCC... I won't but that is the only thing comparable to your beliefs about the KJV.

You have allowed emotion and tradition to supercede facts and scripture.

Please cite examples but keep in mind that I will respond using you same methods while evaluating KJVO's.

You are the one plagued by doubt even to the point of blaspeming God's Word in MV's.

You are most certainly confused.

You are the one whose uncertainty will not allow them to deal honestly with things like the KJV translators and differences between the KJV and Bibles prior to it.

You employ deception each and every time you try to make the KJV the standard by which Bibles should be judged.

You are the one who posted lies about long dead men the refused to repent when shown proof to the contrary. At the very least, you should have recanted and acknowledged that your info might be wrong.

No it doesn't. The start, middle, and end of your position depends on faith in your own mind and humans that agree with you. The scriptures say nothing remotely similar to what you believe.

Nope. I don't doubt the scriptures therefore I accept what God has done rather than foisting my desires onto His will.

Correct. Which is why I continue to challenge you to show scripture to prove your position and post scriptural examples and rules to prove mine.

That's your position in a nutshell.