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Who is ACORN?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Yep, just like the KKK endorsed McCain.
     
  2. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Wrong on both statements...

    They had employees who paid people to REGISTER multiple times.

    None of these people have voted yet so there can't be voter fraud.
     
  3. Bro. Curtis

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    McCain did not form the KKK, he has never worked for or with the KKK.

    It's easy to tie Obama in with Acorn. You have to stretch to tie McCain with the KKK.
     
  4. LadyEagle

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    ACORN has officially endorsed Obama and all the voters they are signing up are for Obama. It's called voter fraud.

    One Ohio voter registered 73 times due to pressure from ACORN.

    http://www.cleveland.com/news/plain...yahoga/1223973289273860.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

    ACORN is evil and so is Obama who has helped perpetrate fraud and strong arm or under the table tactics to even get the DNC nomination. See other threads.....

    The whole election process is being tainted before our very eyes in ways never before attained, considering all the ongoing ACORN investigations in multiple states. They will win at any price and nothing is out of bounds to Obama and his supporters, even the Rule of Law.
     
  5. LeBuick

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    I don't have to stretch, Obama has neither work for or formed ACORN in this election just like McCain didn't work for or formed the KKK.

    2. Obama didn't "form" ACORN.... Not that it would matter since it's been years since he did the training and I am sure a Harvard Law grad didn't teach them to break the law.
     
  6. LeBuick

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    I notice no one is saying anything about a person who would register 73 times... His word wouldn't stand up in court so who do we take his word now?
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    He testified before the Board of Elections yesterday in a hearing. Part of it was televised on cable news.....There is probably a youtube clip somewhere of his interview on camera, too. He was called in during the investigation. Why don't you read the Plain Dealer link I posted and get educated about these ACORN investigations before you make yourself look uninformed about current events? :tonofbricks:
     
  8. LeBuick

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    You missed my point, if registering 73 times was a crime, why didn't they arrest this guy when he testified before the Board of Elections? If what he did was a crime, then he was a criminal and should have been retained.

    The answer, I don't believe a crime was committed. Kind of like Palin, it was an moral or ethical violation but not really a crime.

    PS...

    I did see it on the news last night, I don't think we have to worry about that guy voting. I think he was more interested in the compensation for the registration cards (cigarettes etc...)
     
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    Obama's ties to ACORN are well documented. Established. You have to lie to say otherwise.

    :laugh:

    Yeah, our colleges are absloute bastions for those who respect American law....

    Please, LeBuick.
     
  10. Bro. Curtis

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    Senator Obama has worked hand in glove with ACORN, the group under investigation for voter fraud in many states, for many years. You won’t find our press reporting these connections, so if you want the true facts on Barack Obama sometimes you have to read foreign papers, strange as it seems. Here you seen an article at Canada Free Press that outlines those recent legislative ties:
    Not only did Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign pay more than U.S. $800,000 to a front of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform, Now, ACORN, currently under investigation in a dozen States for voter registration fraud and bribery schemes, for “get-out-the-vote-efforts”; Obama co-sponsored legislation called the “Helping Families Save their Homes in Bankruptcy Act of 2007”– that was supported by ACORN and protects them.
    On the surface the goal was noble, but like his record with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Barack’s efforts on the housing front led to zero results, unless you want to look at the monumental meltdown of financial companies from choking on sub prime loans forced down their throats, which is a very bad result. If you go to the areas Obama organized in, if you look at housing in his state, you see people no better off or worse off. See Here.
    Acorn has fought foreclosures but also supported legislation that enabled this credit market meltdown for almost two decades. They are particularly responsible for helping raise the caps on permissible loan to values, lowering of the standards at Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (FNMA & GMAC,) as well as legislation that increased the percent of subprime loans they had to carry. So in a way Acorn helped open the subprime floodgates and helped create a whole new class of victims to feed into their political causes.
    You won’t see the McCain campaign bring this up for a few reasons. Even though Acorn and Democrat legislators created the sub-prime valley of vultures that poor people were fed into, even though they profited with donations from the very predatory lenders that they trailblazed the market for, it’s a no go simply because the defense will be to show America a non stop calvacade of poor people getting foreclosed upon. Poor people who were sold a dream that was really a nightmare by pernicious legislators who would rather crush our economy than lose an election....



    http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/?p=3470
     
  11. Revmitchell

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    Isn't that DNC water bucket getting heavy? The reason I asked that question was because Ken insisted that Acorn was non-partisan. Since they endorsed Obama that cannot be true. So the next time you want to interject yourself find out what your talking about.
     
  12. rbell

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    From Obama's home state:

    I am flabbergasted that this doesn't bother you.
     
  13. Bible-boy

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    I'm sorry LeBuick but you pop off these kind of statements as if they are proven fact and we have repeatedly proven you wrong with documented evidence.

    Here again you are clearly wrong. I don't know if it just because you react with knee-jerk reactions to anything that dares come against your chosen candidate, or if you willingly chose to ingore documented evidence, facts, and sources.

    Here is an article that shows BHO's well documented connection to ACRON and the fact that he personally helped to train some of their leadership and sat on boards of foundations that gave financial support to ACRON:

    Source: http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=

    See the article for the complete story.

    And this article is even more eye opening:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/25/the-acorn-obama-knows/
     
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  14. Bible-boy

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    More on the BHO/ACORN connection:



    Source: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7203

    See the entire article for more details...:tonofbricks:
     
  15. Bible-boy

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    And the attempted cover-up by the Obama camp continues:

    Source: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231

    Be sure to see the entire article for the full details...:tonofbricks:
     
  16. LeBuick

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    Sorry to answer you all with one post but it seems you have formed a committee and planed to hold a meeting against me. Baptist...

    Now if you would all be so kind as to look closely at my statement, you will find it to be true.

    I clearly said THIS election. You guys are bringing up old ties to justify accusations of behavior in todays election. I am saying Obama has no connection to the organization who perpretrated these acts which is the organization as it is today.

    The times he did work with ACORN was when he was a community organizer. This was back in the 90's. I still don't believe a group like ACORN would have the same workers out on corners as the ones Obama trained. For one, Obama did his training in Chicago and these people are all in other battleground states. I also found this caption interesting while on FActcheck today.

    This by the way is the allegation made by the republican prosecutor. Now I'm trying to picture a guy making $8/hr treating this as a career choice and been doing it 10 or so years and I don't see a company who pays workers $8/hr sending employees to Chicago for training.

    He did appearently give money to one of the branches of this organization for a get-out-the-vote effort but I'm sure the money didn't come with instructions on how to do the job.

    To imply Obama has any connection to this fraud is ludicrous and a real stretch of the imagination. This is just another conservative attempt to shift voters attention from real issues like the economy, wars in two countries, unemployment on the rise and people without health care.
     
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    What is that supposed to mean, LB?
     
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    Considering that ACORN has a documented four year history of faking voter registrations and forging signatures, Obama really didn't have to provide instructions on how to do the job.

    In light of ACORN's history in this area wasn't it an act of poor judgement on Obama's part to hire ACORN out of all possible groups to organize a get-out-the-vote effort?

    I thought that we wanted our next President to be able to make good choices.
     
  19. LadyEagle

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    He did make a good choice since he wants to win at any cost! :eek:
     
  20. Bible-boy

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    Spin it and twist it however much you like. There is a well documented connection between BHO and ACORN. He trained some of their leadership, he represented them in a legal action, he provided funding for them via his position on the board of a foundation, and the ACRON leadership is on record as referring to their relationship with BHO as "Old Friends." No one here is attempting to claim the BHO worked for ACRON during this election cycle. However, the record is clear ACORN went to work on behalf of BHO attempting to ensure his election even going so far as to commit voter fruad in several key battleground states.

    If you believe what you just said here you are more naive than can be imagined. People with a personal investment in a political agenda spend their enitre adult lives working to push that political agenda. Just apply your statement to the NAACP. Do you really believe that no one who worked for the cause of the NAACP in the 1950-60s remains involved in that organization today? If so I say nonsense.


    No it is an attempt by honest people here on the BB to expose the fraud and attempted destruction of our electorial process by the Leftists (Communists and Socialists) in our country. Likewise, it is an attempt by honest people here on the BB to expose the lies of the Obama Campaign regarding his connection to this organization. He flat out lied about his connection to ACORN in the debate Wednesday night and his official campaign website contained the same lies and has now been altered (fortunately we have screen shots and google caches of the original material to prove the point).
     
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