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Who is ACORN?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Did you see the guy that filled out the 73 cards? Do you really think that guy was going to show up to vote? How about 73 times?

    I think we're fairly safe when it comes to him and most of the others I saw that falsely registered. Many were felons, crack heads etc... Not a typical voter, just a guy who'd fill out a card for ciggarettes or a couple of bucks.

    Besides, this happens in every election in one form or another. This is just the first time the republican's needed to divert the voters attention away from the real issues. That is why it is all over the airwaves. These things happen in every election. :BangHead:
     
  2. LadyEagle

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    We can vouch for Ohio being corrupt or at least county officials not being on the ball (several fries short of a happy meal). For several years after we had moved out of state, we still got Ohio absentee ballots sent to us in the mail even AFTER they had been notified. Technically, we could have voted in Tennessee AND sent our absentee ballots in to vote in Ohio. Repeat this several thousands of times and it is easy to see how the ballot box will be stuffed just from clerical error alone, let alone by the tactics of ACORN.

    Yes, last time it was the Democrats crying about disenfrancisement ad nauseum down in Florida even though it was Democrats in charge of most of the counties in question. We should have believed them when they said every vote would be counted....and counted....and counted....and counted...... :BangHead:
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    What is that comment supposed to mean, LB?
     
  4. Bible-boy

    Bible-boy Active Member

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    And how exactly does your response here make voter fraud justified?

    You do realize that ACORN has the ability to copy the registration forms of all the "voters" they registered, right? What is to stop the ACORN folks from sending 73 "voters" (people who already voted using their real names) to the polls to "vote" in this guy's name all for BHO? Voter fraud is not as simple as you are attempting to make it out to be. Either you are incredibly naive or refusing to see what is happening right in front of you.
     
  5. Bible-boy

    Bible-boy Active Member

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    I guess we are going to have to conduct our elections like they do in 3rd world countries. When you get your ballot you dip your thumb into a bottle of purple ink and place your thumb print on the ballot sheet. That will ensure one ballot per registered voter.
     
  6. Enoch

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    Ken, Ken, Ken have you been living in a cave or what? So instead of getting drawn into the obvious omission of reality, here is a video that might bring you back. It's all in fun...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVKUap1HgU
     
  7. rbell

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    I can't believe that voter fraud doesn't bother you. Doesn't that seem unAmerican to be passe about voter fraud?

    Why even vote? If you don't care enough about who votes...if the system being corrupted doesn't matter to you...why bother?

    One thing about it: When you so blindly support a candidate/party that you will defend their criminal actions to take away the choice of the people...whether it be democratic OR republican...there's not a whole lot that can be said.
     
  8. JustChristian

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    I don't think you realize that this isn't the web site of a Cleveland newspaper but rather one on which people can write to express their opinions. The author of this article, "Julie", is described in this way when you click on her name.


    Julie
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    The bona fide newspaper in Cleveland is "The Plain Dealer."
     
  9. JustChristian

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    I'm surprised that no one on this thread has remarked about McCain's history of supporting ACORN. From the ACORN web site.

    ACORN Responds to Senator McCain’s Desperate Attack
    October 15, 2008
    http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=22392&tx_ttnews[backPid]=12387&cHash=cde29e8614


    On Wednesday, Oct. 15, ACORN National President Maude Hurd issued the following statement in response to Senator John McCain’s attack:

    "We appreciate Senator McCain's effort to stir up the Republican base by attacking a community organization working to increase public participation in our democratic process. However, these attacks reflect an increasingly panicked candidate. Unfortunately, the Senator McCain we saw tonight is very different than the Senator McCain who stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN at a February 20, 2006 immigration reform event.

    It is clear for us to see that John McCain was for ACORN before he was against ACORN; he was for reform before he was against reform; and he was a maverick before he became erratic. What is really going on here is that Senator McCain and his allies are part of a coordinated effort to engage in what appears to be an unprecedented effort to suppress voter turnout. Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to ACORN."

    The Facts:

    * ACORN has helped 1.3 million citizens from all parties and all walks of life apply for voter registration.

    * In most states, ACORN is required by law to turn in every voter registration card - even in cases where the cards are not valid.

    * It is ACORN that has reported almost all of the issues regarding voter registration cards to elections officials, and flagged the suspicious cards.

    * Invalid voter registration cards do NOT constitute voter fraud. Even RNC General Counsel Sean Cairncross has recently acknowledged he is not aware of a single improper vote cast as a result of bad cards submitted in the course of an organized voter registration effort.

    * ACORN hired 13,000 field workers to register people to vote. In any endeavor of this size, some people will engage in inappropriate conduct. ACORN has a zero tolerance policy and terminated any field workers caught engaging in questionable activity. At the end of the day, as ACORN is paying these people to register voters, it is ACORN that is defrauded.


    A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI
     
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  10. LeBuick

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    Actually it's not voter fraud, it is voter registration fraud. The difference being is it hasen't impacted the election because we have yet to vote.

    I know this is no excuse, but this happens every election. The republican's just decided to make an issue of it this go around. I was reading how out of thousands of these allegations in the 2004 election only 44 were proven to be voter fraud. I hope no elections is decided by 44 votes.
     
  11. LeBuick

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    This is what I've been saying, it's just more republican scare tactics and further attempts to move our attention away from the real issues. Republican's use and support these same types of groups but I don't think it's worth buying a shovel to dig out the dirt since no wrongful votes have been found.
     
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