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Who Is Jesus Christ?

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    Nothing in Scripture says Jesus was a Human.

    Humans are of the Dust of the Earth.

    Jesus is the Lord from Heaven, manifested (revealed to mankind), in the likeness AS a MAN, in a BODY prepared of God, according to the LAW of nature, (9 months in a womans womb, then revealed, via a birth from a womans body).

    Gen.2
    [7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,

    Heb.10
    1. [5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
    Phil.2
    1. [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    Gal.4
    1. [4] But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
    1John.1
    1. [2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
    John.6
    [38] For I came down from heaven,
     
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    Jesus born a jew, as under the law! So how could he not be a human?
     
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    The question is NOT, "how could he not be a human", but rather...

    How could Jesus be a human?

    Human's are an earthly KIND of man.
    Human's come from the dust of earth. <--- Fact, IF you believe Scripture.
    Jesus came from Heaven. <--- Fact, IF you believe Scripture.
    Jesus repeatedly says His Father is in Heaven.
    Jesus came forth OUT FROM God, whom Jesus says was in Heaven. Fact, IF you believe Scripture.

    Between Jesus coming forth OUT from God (who was in Heaven), and Jesus being Revealed coming forth OUT from Mary's Womb.....Jesus ENTERED Mary's Womb.

    How? Scripture tells us...

    Luke.1
    1. [35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
    John.16
    1. [27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

    Acts.10
    1. [36] The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
     
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    The scriptures declared Jesus to be a Jewish Male, correct?
     
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    Correct.

    Jesus was called a man.
    Jesus was called a Jew.
    Jesus was called a Son of man.
    Jesus was called the Son of God.
    Jesus was called the Son of Mary.


    Why was Jesus called a man?
    ....Because he looked (in the likeness as) a man. yes.
    ....Because he was born (revealed) coming forth out of a woman. <--- he met the LAWFUL (mans law) requirement.

    Why was Jesus called a Jew?
    ....Because a Jew is a RACE of people. The Jewish LAW, establishes the JEWISH race, via the mother's blood-line.
    ....Jesus was LAWFULLY (mans law, Jewish Law), a Jew.

    Why was Jesus called a Son of man?
    ....Because LAWFULLY (mans law, natures law), the LAWFUL son of any man, is that mans son.

    Why was Jesus called the Son of God?
    .....Because when a LIVING THING comes forth out from a LIVING THING, it is called born of that thing.
    .....Jesus was ALIVE IN God, and came forth out from the Living God, thus born of God.

    John.1
    1. [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    Why was Jesus called the Son of Mary?
    .....Because Jesus was revealed coming forth ALIVE, from out of Mary, who was ALIVE, thus Jesus was born out of her Womb.
     
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    Jesus was Gof becoming a HUman being, God became flesh and walked among us!
     
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    Jesus is God Incarnate and the King of kings and Lord of lords.
     
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    Does God really have to BECOME a HUMAN to appear as a HUMAN? No.

    God does not BECOME a Human. Humans are "created".

    Can God become the created? No.

    Humans do not become God.

    Jesus IS God who appeared AS A Human.
    He did not become a Human. He is the Lord from Heaven, not a Human from dust.

    Lev.26
    1. [12] And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.
    1John.1
    1. [2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
    The disciples FIRST knew Jesus as a (flesh) man.
    THAT is how "about" Jesus is first taught to men (women, children) Learning Scripture.

    2Cor.5
    1. [16] Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

    THEN how did the Disciples KNOW Jesus? Spirit.

    Same is supposed to be for ANY born again Christian.

    To learn ABOUT Jesus, to learn He came to mankind IN THE FLESH.
    AND then?
    To KNOW HIM in Spirit.

    And WHO is the Spirit of God? Christ.
    And WHO is Christ? Jesus
    What do you call the Spirit of God? A Human man, created from the Dust of the Earth? no
    What IS Spirit of God? <---> Gods POWER, who is called Christ, who is called Jesus.

    How IS the Spirit of God, created FROM the EARTH, WHEN it was the Spirit of God, that IS Gods Power, that created the earth?

    Rom.15
    1. [13] Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
    1 Cor 1

    [24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
     
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    Yes ~ Jesus, God in the flesh, in the form of a human...... NOT A HUMAN.

    incarnate
    (especially of a deity or spirit) embodied in flesh; in human form.

     
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    The Bible states that he is God-Man, was Jesus wrong about Himself?
     
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    He is God. He was manifested as a man. He was not a HUMAN man.
     
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    He HAD to be, for if not human, than could not die as our sin bearer!
     
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    IF Jesus were HUMAN....He could NOT be FROM Heaven.
    IF Jesus were HUMAN....He could NOT be GOOD.
    IF Jesus were HUMAN....He could NOT have come forth OUT from God.
    IF Jesus were HUMAN....He could NOT be WITHOUT SIN.

    IF God prepared a PERFECT, SINLESS FLESH BODY, for His Word came into this world, IN a FASHION that mankind could SEE, for the express purpose of GIVING that FLESH BODY unto death, FOR the Life of the world.....

    wait. There is no IF, that is exactly what God did. Seems to me, God prepared what was ACCEPTABLE to Him, to send into the this World, AND mankind Himself, has CHANGED what God sent, INTO a created Human. Why?

    God sent THEE Word of God into this world.
    .....nothing new. God has sent THEE Word of God into this world since the beginning of this world.

    What was different is HOW Gods Word "looked".
    Early man HAD NOT A VISUAL of Gods Word. Only audible.
    Men complained, and asked God for a visual.....Let me see ..... Moses, Job, Philip to name a few
    When God sent His Word....in a VISUAL means that mankind could SEE....what happened?

    He was SENT specifically to "his own".... His OWN, are the very ones God separated eons ago....and called them Hebrews, and the offspring called Jews, to whom, His Word was sent TO, in the likeness (as a man), that they could SEE, as they had desired they wanted......AND they rejected Him!

    John 1 [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    God sent Thee Spirit of God into this world. (which is His Power)
    ....nothing new. God has sent THEE Holy Spirit (Power) of God into this world since the beginning of this world.

    Do you get EVERYTHING about God IS HOLY, PURE, UN-DEFILED, WITHOUT BLEMISH?

    Do you get EVERYTHING about Mankind IS UNHOLY, IMPURE, DEFILED, WITH BLEMISH?

    Do you get NOTHING UNHOLY can SEE, hear, touch, etc. THEE Holy God?

    Do you see a "communication" dilemma? Between the Holy God and the Unholy mankind?

    Did you learn HOW God Himself solved the "dilemma" ?
    He "Covers" Himself. He "Appears" with "COVER" that mankind can recognize what the COVER IS, while also knowing he is in the presence of the LORD.

    When the Disciples FIRST saw Jesus, they ONLY "saw" a MAN.
    When the Disciples Learned from Jesus, followed Jesus, and finally pledged their faithfulness....they KNEW the Spirit of God.

    Same as we who are faithful are supposed to do. :)
     
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    Jesus was BOTH fully human and fully God!
     
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