Who is the Creator of All Men?

HP: Would all see this as living proof that God is, of a truth, the creator of all men? Did God create you, or are you simply the creation of your earthly parents, Satan, or something or someone else?

 

HP: Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Would it be safe to assume that your rendering of this verse might be, ‘All things were originally created by Him, but now, subsequent to creation, God only sustains the system which in turn creates the actual product of the system that God put in order?’

 

HP: Interesting verses indeed. Can we assume, as BR seems to suggest, that it was the system that actually did the knitting, with God only providing support to it? If so, I wonder what that support might be? What I am wondering, is where lies the cause of our existence? Is it God or the system by which He created?

From the last verse should we assume that God was just referring to the system which He created that actually is now ‘the creator’ that knows us?

 

If one aborts a baby, is one simply aborting the product of the natural system that birthed us, or are we aborting a living soul?

That gives birth to the question, can ‘the system’ God created give birth to a living soul? Is the soul of man the mere product of the natural system God created, with that system evidently to be viewed as the 'creator of all the now living?'

 

HP: The verses posted by Tom seem to be illuminated clearly to me. What seems to be difficulty in understanding them? What you term as 'the system,' I see as code words for 'Christ.'

Toads might be the mere product of a system created by God, but all living souls are the direct product and handiwork of our Creator God.

 

HP: So I wonder if God ever wonders if the person He calls a she will end up a he?

HP: Just not the genetics, right? :laugh:

HP: He sure seems to know a lot about this system He created. Who creates the soul BR? Is there any way you can reduce the metaphysical issues to either just answering ‘God’ or is it the system He created that creates the soul? Can the physical create the spiritual? Do 'genetics' create and determine the nature of the soul?

 

HP: Is God Himself the Creator of the soul, or are we the mere product of the system?

HP: BR, is it possinle that the 'system’ you speak of is what is commonly denoted as Mother nature? Was the psalmist addressing ‘the system’ or Mother nature in Ps. 139:13? Was it Mother nature or the system speaking to Jeremiah in Jer. 1:5?

 

HP: This is a debate thread. Anytime you see a clear difference of opinion on an issue, there is room for debate, and debate often starts with a question. What would your answer to the question be?

 

HP: Very well. Could not a toad say that concerning himself as well? Man has been created as a living soul, created to have fellowship with God and to exist in the here after for eternity. Whatever in man you call that eternal entity, be it the spirit or soul and or both of man, can it be created by mere biological means, or is God the sole author and creator of the soul of man? Another way to ask it would be, can the physical create or have the power to create or procreate the soul of man?