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Who is your God

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by freeatlast, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    IF I said a different God, i was wrong to say that, meant to say that His concept of God is that we are still in Isreal under the law, not under the Cross and Grace of Christ!

    I might be wrong, but reading his posts as if he would had been seen as being a "judaizer" in the Church!
     
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    Was it just this one statement that teed you off, or something also of the message he gave? I go along with the Pastor on this statement, but don't know if I'd approve of his message in explaining it.

     
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    Hi winman.

    I have always said that the Spirit of God has never led me into sin.

    I do that on my own when I wander too far from the way.

    Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.​

    HankD​
     
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    How do you handle the Lord's Prayer?
     
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    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    My God is...

    ....The Creator of this Universe and all that can be seen. And He is known to me and His creation by many of the following names:

    Adonai-Jehovah -- The Lord our Sovereign
    El-Elyon -- The Lord Most High
    El-Olam -- The Everlasting God
    El-Shaddai -- The God Who is Sufficient for the Needs of His People
    Jehovah-Elohim -- The Eternal Creator
    Jehovah-Jireh -- The Lord our Provider
    Jehovah-Nissi -- The Lord our Banner
    Jehovah-Ropheka -- The Lord our Healer
    Jehovah-Shalom -- The Lord our Peace
    Jehovah-Tsidkenu -- The Lord our Righteousness
    Jehovah-Mekaddishkem -- The Lord our Sanctifier
    Jehovah-Sabaoth -- The Lord of Hosts
    Jehovah-Shammah -- The Lord is Present
    Jehovah-Rohi -- The Lord our Shepherd
    Jehovah-Hoseenu -- The Lord our Maker
    Jehovah-Eloheenu -- The Lord our God


    He truly is the great I Am! And it is to God that I owe my everything, because through Hiis Son I've been given rebirth, a second chance, and eternal life!
     
  6. HankD

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    I'm not 100 percent sure what you mean ituttut.

    I think you are refering to "lead us not into temptation" I know that does not mean temptation to commit evil because:

    James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:​

    So if that is what you are asking, I would say that the "temptation" of the Lord's prayer is more of a test of one's faith, the word lends itself to that meaning.​

    For instance to lead me to the place where I must choose - e.g. Fame and fortune or God.​

    Family or God - i.e. Abraham and Isaac.​

    In the early days of the church Christians were often required to salute Caesar as a god or loose one's life. It's easy to say "well I would never deny Christ".
    Peter knows all about that situation.​

    Better to pray not to have to face it, then fail and be ashamed at His coming.

    But if the Spirit leads to that place then pray for grace to be a good witness.

    That is my answer if that was your question.


    HankD
     
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    You need to study this....your response which you have repeated before is wrong in many ways.
     
  8. Amy.G

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    I have to agree with you. :eek:.........:laugh:

    Abraham had a very personal relationship with God.

    Moses talked directly with God and God called him a friend.

    And of course David had a very personal relationship with God.

    The covenants are different, but God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
     
  9. HankD

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    It is ever and always and only grace.

    Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

    HankD​
     
  10. JesusFan

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    God remains the same, but DIFFERENT relationship established between Him and us in the new Covenant!

    They could NOT have had the HS indwelt them as He does us today...

    Could NOT experience the fullness of a direct connection to Him as we do now...

    Still was under the bondage of the law and its rules/regulations...

    this is indeed a Much better Covenant of promise, as per the Bible!
     
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    ALL saved by Grace of God, but we are under a MUCH surer and better Covenant that they were before God, as per hebrews!
     
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    moses brought us the law, jesus Grave, His Covenant is a much better/surer one, per Hebrews!

    could see it differently as I think you see it as being Covenant theology, mine as Dispy!
     
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    The one statement. Those kind of statements make God seem like a harsh evil taskmaster and Jesus the kind and forgiving Son. The truth is that Jesus is the God of the OT. There is no difference. When someone try's and separate the NT Jesus from OT God it tells me they have no clue to who God or Jesus is.
     
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    Yes, that was my reference, and happy to see the answer shows exegete understanding of the word in its setting.
     
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    Indeed!

    HankD
     
  16. ituttut

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    I beg to differ. We view, and understand The Word of God differently. God is God, and He is equal in all parts. I see you may fail to see that The Word of God did become flesh. I'm sure you believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. However in your belief you look to be saying, God is the same, and the Word (the Son of God), whose name is Jesus Christ did not become sub servant, willingly to God the Father, and God the Holy Ghost. How can He ever be the same?

    I see your statement above, "When someone try's and separate the NT Jesus from OT God it tells me they have no clue to who God or Jesus is", does not understand the Body of Christ. You pass judgment on me in trying to defend your Covenant view. You, I believe, are looking for that kingdom is at hand to be the next thing on HIS agenda.

    He has plans for all of us, and I believe what He tells me from heaven, viz. Thessalonians 4:17-18. I find comfort in these words.

    Whether we like it are not, They separated Themselves to come down here and spill His everlasting blood for us.
     
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