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Who Should be Allowed to Vote?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Monergist, Oct 16, 2004.

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  1. Government employees

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  2. Government employees (except military)

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  3. Elected Officials

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  4. Non-landowners

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  5. Non-employed persons

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  6. Non-employed persons (except legimately retired)

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  7. Persons on goverment programs (medicaid, welfare, etc)

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  8. No changes should be made

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  1. Monergist

    Monergist New Member

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    The second biggest issue for me in this years election (behind abortion) is the unjust wealth redistribution system that our government has become & identifying candidates which are opposed to feeding the beast.

    Of course, most politicians are only happy to "buy" votes by telling voters what they want to hear; namely that, if elected, they will plunder their neighbor's goods and in a good-guy "Robin Hood' fashion give to those who don't have. I'm throwing this out here for debate & discussion to see some thoughts on what might remedy our problem.
     
  2. PastorGreg

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    I think it worked well in the early days when voters were only white male landowners. ;) (just kidding, for those who might not be able to interpret the wink)
     
  3. Elnora

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    Why should a non-landowner not be allowed to vote? When they charge rent the landlord figures in the cost of property tax to include in that rent. They do here, so the renter is paying the taxes also.
     
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

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    My answer to number one wasn't listed, so I will list it here:

    Those who are convicted felons.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  5. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Also international war criminals (aka John Kerry) and terrorists (aka Al Quaeda like they did in Spain).

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  6. JGrubbs

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    I don't think dead people and illegal aliens should be allowed to vote either. [​IMG]
     
  7. Daisy

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    It's an elitist thing.
     
  8. dianetavegia

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    Elnora has a good point. Usually it's the young who have no property. They also are generally the families with children in school and yet those who are older, own property, pay school tax. What comes around goes around. It's a full circle.

    I don't think those who cannot read and write English should be allowed to vote. Pretty hard to make an educated decision if all you know is what the t.v. says.
     
  9. Daisy

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    Some people get their news from newspapers. Most communities have their own native language weeklies.
     
  10. dianetavegia

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    I don't think people should be granted citizenship if they cannot read, write and converse in English.
     
  11. Daisy

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    Nothing you can do about it if they're born here or in Puerto Rico, or born abroad to US citizens. I'm not sure whether naturalized citizens are required to speak at least enough English to pass the required civics exam or not, but I think so.
     
  12. Elnora

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    Since you mentioned it Daisy, it could be elitest. It never occured to me to not allow the poor to vote. Diane, Here if you are a retired homeowner and qualify financially, meaning poor you can opt out of paying property tax.

    Many old people don't own homes either. So that would leave out any that are young, old, and not middle class or above.
     
  13. The Galatian

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    It's a very simple priniciple; government is legitimate only when it is by the consent of the governed.

    Hence it is a basic element of American values that all adults are permitted to vote.

    Not everyone living in America shares basic American values, of course. But as these polls show, the pro-Americans are in the majority.
     
  14. Craigbythesea

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    Everyone should be excluded except for dianetavegia, me, and my two year old grand son. [​IMG]

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  15. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    [​IMG] Thanks Craig!

    Diane
     
  16. Salty

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    How about this, The IRS will send you a receipt that you have (fully) paid your taxes. No receipt, no vote!!
     
  17. Pete

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    SALTCITY, I've got a better idea, only CABBIES should be allowed to vote :D
     
  18. TC

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    All adult U.S. citizens should be allowed to vote except prisoners and traitors. No immigrants (legal or otherwise) should be allowed to vote - even though some people are trying to promote this.
     
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    I've gotta completely disagree with that. I'm sure there are a few of us on the board who can say our grandparents/great grandparents escaped horrible situations in other countries by gaining amnesty in the United States. Human beings need to be treated like human beings regardless of their language.

    As far as who should vote, it's a basic right, isn't it? Anyone 18 and over and a citizen can vote. I wouldn't want to change that for anything. I'd like people to abstain if they have no clue what they're doing or why, but not voting can't and shouldn't be forced on any U.S. citizen.

    I'd be interested in seeing a separated vote that showed us how different people voted. For example, I'd like to see how the majority of soldiers vote, how the elderly vote, how the low income vote, how the middle class vote, how the so stinkin rich they don't know what to do with it all vote, how the 18 to 30 yr olds vote.

    Gina
     
  20. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    Gina said:
    That was then and this is now, Gina. We have way too many American's without jobs or underemployed, too many children going to bed hungry, etc... and we need to remedy that before allowing open borders.

    It's not inhumane to refuse voting rights to those who may not even know who stands for what. I just saw an ad at the top of one of the BB pages asking for donations for the Democrat Now to run Spanish language ads in Miami.

    But this is off topic...
    Mea Culpa!

    Diane
     
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