Who Won The Debate? Reviews Go To Obama

I don't know. I talk to people all the time that I am not looking at. You said he refused to even acknowledge him. Yet that is clearly wrong. He did directly address him.

I know.

Obama was born Aug 4, 1961; McCain was born Aug 29, 1936. My math skills are admittedly rusty, but that looks like 25 years to me. So McCain being 25 years older than Obama is his elder. Perhaps you, being an accountant if I recall correctly, can do the math better. Let me know what number you come up with.

 

So you deny that McCain shook Obama's hand? You deny that he responded to Obama's comments? You deny that directly addressed Obama?

 

Well I think that we should drop a cruise missle on any known terrorist camp anywhere in the world.

Hey, I just passed the KenH commander-in-chief test.

Cool:thumbs:


BTW - as someone else pointed out - you keep telling us what the American people think. What is your basis for this? Polls?

 

Everyone keeps saying that Obama has a better grasp on economic policy, but that wasnt how he struck me last night.

McCain kept stressing that we need to cut back on spending. And from Obama's past statements the only spending cutbacks he proposes are on defense. IMO, cutting spending would lessen the gap between what we collect through taxes, and how much we spend, thus lowering the deficit.

Obama kept stressing that we need to cut taxes. He opposed McCain on spending cuts, but he claims he can provide health care for everyone, increase social and education programs, and still cut taxes for 95% of American families??????? How does that make sense? Increase spending, and cut taxes? Wont that increase the deficit?

I know that Obama proposes to raise the taxes on corporations (especially the oil companies), but dont all business's pass the cost of operations on to the consumer? So who really pays? We do, whether it is through direct taxation, or through inflated consumer prices to cover the corporate tax increases....it is still us that pays.

I agree with McCain, he said that Bush and this congress has let spending get out of control.

Cutting back on spending is the long term answer, redistribution of taxation is merely a band aid that will eventually catch up to all of us.

AJ

 

No. I think they should have referred to each other as "Senator" or "my friend" or "my opponent."

As we have shown, your recall isn't all that great. This debate was less than 24 hours ago and you can't even recall that McCain did acknowledge Obama and did so in clear and unmistakeable ways.

But you are correct in this particular case, probably more by luck than knowledge. I didn't spend more than five minutes watching or reading about primary debates. I think they were a waste of time (just as this one was). Obama should have agreed to weekly townhall meetings. But for some reason, he didn't seem to want to face the music.

So the point is that I didn't know Obama did that. He should not have. The fact that he did it and continues to shows yet again his lack of surrounding himself with good people. It is yet another example that he is not fit nor prepared.

 

Obama has also said that he is going to save social security by lifting the cap on taxable wages for social security.

At the same time he says that he wants to limit how much CEOs can earn.

How do you tax higher incomes while at the same time putting a limit on how much someone can earn?

 

I usually leave that others to affirm or deny. But your affirmation doesn't carry a lot of weight, to be honest.

I understand your point. That is how I was able to respond to it with objective facts that demonstrate your point was not valid. Your saying it is valid does not make it so. It was not valid and has been demonstrated so. And the fact that you want to run from it rather than address it makes your fit to be a politician.

Why not simply admit you overspoke with hyperbole and should have shown more careful judgment?

 

What I didn't like was how Obama misquoted Henry Kissinger & was glad McCain called him on it. Friends for 35 years would seem to me that McCain knows more about what Henry Kissinger thinks than the new junior senator on the block who hasn't hung around the Hill much.

 

Ken, are you trying to be inflammatory with you reference to McCain and Obama? In your statement, you refer to McCain as John and to Obama as Mr. Obama and Senator Obama.

 

I dont understand why Obama thinks that poor folks carry too much of the tax burden.

I have a family of 3 and I dont pay any taxes at all until I make over something like $32,000/year, so in fact I pay very little Federal Tax. I pay way more state and local taxes.

And I know that I am not even close to the bottom of wage earners in this country, there is a large percentage of folks that make even less than I do. So, just who are these poor people that are carrying the burden?

Does anyone have the breakdown of how much tax is actually paid, and by whom?

AJ

 

Well, KenH - It appears that Henry Kissinger disagrees with both you and Obama on this one.

Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner...bama-wrong-kissingers-position-debate-tonight


No doubt you will now go on instist that you know better what Kissinger is saying than Kissinger...

As well as what the American people think about it.

 

:thumbs: Okay, all's good.