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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Rippon, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    So you like this looser!?! He and his ilk brought us into a war under false pretenses in Afghanistan then shifted it with the help of Rumsfeld and Dick Chenie (sp)....how many lives were forfit for that boondoggle that cost the American taxpayer 6-7 trillion. Then there is his letting in all these illegals with his now famious, I have sympathy for these people... another boondoggle with long range ramifications. Lastly his having to borrow trillions to bail out bank and Wall Street incompetence so while me and allot of hard working people were layed off those frigging Banksters we’re getting raises and corporate bonuses And because of his horrible leadership stupid liberals elected a liberal socialist to retaliate.
     
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  2. Earth Wind and Fire

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    No I just tell the truth and because of terrible leadership our country is in deep insolvency. Yea we are in nice shape
     
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    Yeah. Reagan had some of the worst deficits to date.

    Clinton actually balanced the budget, but Bush 2 fixed that.
     
  4. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Fixed it good
     
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    You really need to revisit this to find a more truthful answer.

    The US was already in a state of war at 9/11. It was as a Pearl Harbor in New York, DC, and the field of Pennsylvania.

    Which lead to a problem of clearing out the WMD from the Iraq area. That the British, the French, the Germans, the US, the Italians to name a few (even the Russians) and the history of the WMD being used upon his own people, led the intelligence presenting what was found out later was not completely accurate (although some WMD were found) by then it was already settled. Hussein had been hung. Pakistan was hiding Bin Laden, and the troupes were allowed to continue in doing what they do best until the change in administrations. Obama was a an idiot, and great heartache came to the military under his authority.

    I do agree that Rumsfeld was certainly self serving. I think that in hindsight Bush should and would have removed him, and so do most military folks I have visited with about it all. They knew at the time Bush wasn't getting the full truth from Rumsfeld, but military are obliged to follow superior's orders.

    Texas is not blue, and the illegal situation needs addressed across the nation, but the problem was not Bush's, it was festering for many administrations prior and after Bush. During the Bush administration, the efforts were being thwarted by the Democrats at every turn in trying to structure policies and procedures. When Bush was governor, Texas was like a Lone Ranger dealing with the illegal situation and being somewhat successful because (Imo) the feds were hampered by their blunders. But that is long ago, and not really noteworthy. As president, Bush was trying to bring some accountability to the issue in DC, but the liberals love to manipulate for power just as they so boldly go about presently.

    The Wall Street situation was again the makings from the Clinton years. Bush's chairman of treasury (imo) did not handle the Wall Street collapse of the fund companies in a wise manner. He should never have bailed out the first one, but let them all collapse, and then give them a fresh start. But, as a result, Bush stepped in and did take a more direct control over matters when it came to GM and Dodge, doing exactly that. He let them collapse, stepped in, restructured them and today, as a result, both companies survived, both companies saved tens of thousands of jobs, and both companies have repaid the debt of bailing them out.

    Now, let's visit bankers, and corporate bosses, and the Yankee wealth machine. Does anyone one remember the Wikileaks, Occupy Wall Street (international protests), and other disruptions of the Obama years? How about, Ruby Ridge, Branch Davidians, and Elian Gonzales in the Clinton years? Does anyone not remember that it was the deregulation and excess of the Clinton administration that actually lead to the financial problems that Bush had to handle? The seeds of the destruction of excess were sown and the weeds ignored long before Bush took office.

    Ultimately, who puts together and controls the leadership in any nation?

    Ultimately, in what manner is the world not plunging into embracing a single world leader who promises and can deliver world peace?

    Ultimately, America will collapse, will disintegrate, and will never rise again.
     
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    Abraham Lincoln?
     
  7. Rippon

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    Nope. Good try though.
     
  8. InTheLight

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    Thomas Jefferson.

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL
     
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  9. Rippon

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    Certainly not.

    I've lost track. How many wrong guesses have we now? Ten?
     
  10. InTheLight

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    Maybe you should define "theologically knowledgeable". Thomas Jefferson certainly understood many different theologies.

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    9 wrong. 1 right.
     
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    As mentioned above, the answer to the president could depend on what you mean by "theologically knowledgeable". Since you X'ed the Garfield, which I was going to say also, my next guess will be John Adams.
     
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    Since Rippon is the arbiter, I think we all know what this will end up being about.
     
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    Which President was Reformed and believed in conspiracy theories?

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    oh look ..... its WILLIS
    hmmmm
     
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    Benjamin Harrison is my pick.
    Trump is nominally Reformed ... but I don't think he knows the differences between predestination and preterism and premillennial.
     
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  17. Rippon

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    Wrong assumption Jerome.
     
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    Perhaps he is attempting to find a consensus which he can use as a resource?



    Isn't the bb a place of scholars that can be quoted?

    :)
     
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  20. Rippon

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    The above is from the OP.

    Everyone is focusing their energy on the Presidential question so much that y-o-u have forgotten my first query.
     
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