Why are you offended?

Kathy:

God really isn't His name...it's His title. He has MANY MANY names...

S&T:

Interesting statement. Hope you are not opening up a can of worms here.

 

Kathy: I absolutely detest and despise this "Oh my Goooooooood!!!!!!!" garbage that irreverent unbelievers say so often. Some movie even featured a bunch of girls saying it, you probably know which Hellywood movie it was, in their trailer commercial.

I hate it. Why? Because it IS taking the Lord's name in vain, whether the "name" is "God" or "Jesus" or "Yahweh" or "Lord" or whatever, the principle remains the same. Title, name, whatever, taking it in vain, to frivolous, insincere purpose is an abomination.

Think: the name or title "Father" or "God" or "Christ", etc. is what we say in our prayers, to get saved, to heal the sick, to cast out demons, to preach the gospel, to rebuke the devil, to baptize people into the one Body of Christ.

Don't you hate it when people say "Jeeeeeesus" and etc.??? Man, I cannot stand to hear it.

"God" and all other names and titles are so very precious to me, Kathy. They are "4Him" and Him alone. Not to be trifled with.

Secular idiots never say "Oh Buuuuuudddddhaaaa" or "Oh my Big Bang!" or "Oh my Evolution" or "Oh my self centeredness" Why not? No, they have to mock the Creator and Father and Ruler of all souls.

Thanks for bringing up an important topic. Was I "nice" I hope so, cuz U R !!

 

Great point! Which just goes to prove Jesus Christ IS King of Kings & Lord of Lords! Amen!

 

Oh no. I can't believe this miracle. Lady Eagle and Vaspers agree on something.

The Unity of the Spirit is exploding with joy!

Bless you Lady Eagle. I get more upset on this horrid "Oh my God" garbage than I do on almost any other topic, including The Passion. Ha!

Peace.

 

As far as we're concerned it's his name, because that's what we call him by!
Whatever the case, it is not right to use it in vain, vain meaning without cause.
It is irreverant to speak of Him in such a flippant manner. It takes away the honor and respect that is due.

It doesn't just bug me to hear it flying out of people's mouths almost as if it's a cuss word for when they're suprised, it makes me angry. In the way that phrase is used it's perfectly interchangeable with crude speech, and has absolutely no intention of showing any honor or glory in respect to the name used, so it shouldn't be said at all. Sometimes people even put a cuss word in there before His name.

I see it on here all the time and cringe. There's been a few times when I've seen it by someone I thought well of and it completely turns me off to them and I start trying to not read their posts to avoid seeing it again. A couple years ago I posted about it and everytime I saw it I updated the post. It slowed down for a while, but didn't stop and probably never will unless outright forbidden. I'd rather see this forbidden than cuss words.

So if anyone reading this is one of the one's doing it please please please quit! If you really don't feel it's wrong then just quit anyway. It's not hard to use other fitting expressions that accurately describe what you think!

Gina

 

I always hated that. Remember when the "valley girl" thing was out? That was their major catch-phrase. One of my friends was trying to be a valley chick and she drove me nuts with it.

I completely agree. It is used to acknowledge our Father and He commanded that we not use it in vain.

Vaspers:
Oh my big bang? LOL
I laughed so hard it brought me to tears.

Kim

 

I almost said gosh but that would make me a hypocrite, woodint it?

KimS--you laff? you laff at my sayings? you very mean woman. you no laff at me, lady. you stop that rite now. you string of chatterbot code you.

Glad I could make you laugh. Usually I make people grind their teeth and spit nails. Ha!

 

It thought it soooooo appropriate when Ben Mills began using the word "HaShem" which literally means "His Name", to make reference to G-d. His Name is so Holy that to utter it any other way might be using it in vain.

(Ben, if you happen to read this, I am grateful to you for teaching me something new!!!)

 

It thought it soooooo appropriate when Ben Mills began using the word "HaShem" which literally means "His Name", to make reference to G-d. His Name is so Holy that to utter it any other way might be using it in vain.

(Ben, if you happen to read this, I am grateful to you for teaching me something new!!!)

Now if I can only get Ben to acknowledge that to refer to G-d as "him/her" (as if we don't know which He is), is to infer a feminine Father.

 

Now I don't get too extreme on things like, "might utter His name in vain, so don't utter it at all."

Be careful. That's exactly what Pharisees did to the Law, they added all kinds of hedges around it, to "protect" it, and voila: full blown obsessive legalism with impossible demands and obesessive compulsive "ritualistic" behavior aberrations.

I know I can use the name of Jesus Christ in prayer and praise, and since I am a son of God, I can speak of my Father reverently, and in witnessing to others. The "HaShem" is often associated with House of Yahweh and other strange legalism cults. Watch out. I don't know who Ben Mills is and I mean no offence, but I hear "HaShem" in a radio program where the group is weirdly legalistic in a OT mandatory way.

 

Try running a search for his moniker "Ben Mills" and you'll see some of his posts here. I can't speak for him, but if I interpret his posts accurately I'd say that he is a Reformed Jew who takes the name of the Lord G-d seriously. I cannot fault him there. The Father is called YHWH and by other names, but the use of "God" to refer to Him is often over used to the point of there being no Holy meaning, thus the need to make all references to Him as Special. JMO! There is but one God, but many gods. Yet how many HaShems are there???

 

But HaShem means nothing to most people. why come up with some weird word that makes no sense to most people?

I'm not afraid of God. He is Love. I do not fear offending Him by saying His name inappropriately. To refuse to use His names or titles sounds paranoid to me, with all due respect to those who disagree.

I mean, the whole YHWH thing is silly. Israel was to be a light to the Gentiles. They had to say some name or title, El Shaddai, or Most High, to witness to the Gentiles and identify which God they worshipped. This fear of referring to God in any way seems like a strange legalism that prevents witnessing.

I can't figger it out, bro.

 

Judaism.

 

Whatever name I know him by is the name I call on. One of those names is God. Therefore for me, I am not going to dilute my use of it by using that name in a vain or un-useful way.

More often I call him Father, Lord, Savior, Counselor and other wonderful names.

If I really believe this I will be more sad than offended if someone else uses the name of the Lord in vain.

They don't know what they do and that deserves much compassion from me.

Dave.

 

Count me in as well Vaspers. It deeply offends me to hear the use of that phrase.

 

I work with a bunch of sailors. When ever they say, "Jesus Christ" or "Oh my God", I ask if they are praying out loud. It has not detoured them, but they don't spout off when I'm around.

It doesn't offend me because those saying it are either lost or so far backslidden they can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's in their nature, the nature of man. So, I pray for them.

 

Billy Mac:

It thought it soooooo appropriate when Ben Mills began using the word "HaShem" which literally means "His Name", to make reference to G-d.

S&T:

I believe that "HaShem" means "the Name" in Hebrew. It is a substitute that is read when people of Jewish heritage come across the Name YHVH or Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey in the Hebrew scriptures [OT]. Some have said that this Name is correctly rendered YaHWeH, but many beleive that it is correctly rendered as YeHoWaH. All of the sacred name people like YaHWeH, so I stay clear of it.

 

Yahweh is the correct rendering. Jehovah is the consonants of Yahweh and the vowels of Adonai. Since the Jews would not pronounc "YHWH" when they came across it in the text, they read "Adonai."

to use God's name in vain is to use it lightly or to use it for something he would not use it for. He does not use it as an expression of surprise or anger. We should not either.