Featured Why Ben Carson doesn’t believe in hell

Liberal? Please. It is an error in logic. I have explained their error in detail to you. Dr. Carson is not a universalist--he believes that only Christians go to heaven. I am an Evangelical so you probably consider me liberal. Where is your charity?

 

I don't need to have charity for people that teach false doctrine.

 

And I don't imagine that you do. Let's just say for the sake of argument that your human brain of flesh and blood has a perfect understanding of the mind of Christ and everyone who disagrees with you on any point of doctrine is going to hell. Is that a charitable statement of your position?

Look, I don't support Dr. Carson for president in 2016 and I never have but I don't agree with you that you have everything the same as Jesus so help me stay out of your church, please.

 

I never said that everything under the sun was an essential doctrine. I said that believing in a literal Hell was essential.

 

So anyone who disagrees with you that the doctrine of hell is an essential--and there cannot be no allowance for human frailties on the point--is going to hell and you are defining your belief as an essential and not a peripheral--is that a charitable view of what you are saying with your brain of flesh and blood? Please tell me how to stay out of your church. Dr. Carson and everyone agrees that only Christians go to heaven. The SDA has an error on the nature of hell and what happens to non-Christians. Is it charitable to you to say that you are a Fundamentalist?

 

Yep, I am a fundie.

 

Well, okay, I love Fundamentalists--you come to my house this Christmas.

 

Ben Carson said he did not believe in a “physical hell”. To say he or the SDA do not believe in a
“literal hell” is either in gross ignorance or amounts to an outright lie of putting words into Ben Carson’s mouth.

I will address the ignorance if that’s the case but will leave the outright lying to the perpetrator’s own conscience concerning his motives for doing so.

The SDA believe “Hell is a place and state of punishment and destruction, by eternal fire in the second death” – that my friends would be a literal Hell! They clearly believe Hell exists (literally) as a lake of fire where the unrighteous, those who reject God and the salvation of Jesus Christ, are burned up and utterly destroyed in a second death or IOWs permanently destroyed (Annihilation).

To attempt to carry this argument into the dogma of insisting that one who believes in Annihilation does not worship the same Jesus is such a juvenile self-serving doctrine of one thinking of himself and his denomination more highly than he ought to think, that such ignorance it is not worth even addressing, so I will leave it at that.

 

First, SDAs don't believe Hell exists at this moment.

Second, SDAs have a plethora of other issues as well, not the least of believing that Ellen White was a prophet.

SDAs are not Christian. Enjoy trying to make Carson more palatable, not happening for me.

 

First, that was not your argument.

Second, that they believe in soul sleep and judgment and Hell afterward does not support your original argument or its conclusion.

Third, if you wish to change your argument you should first admit to your error of accusation in the original argument.

First, the Pentecostals have a plethora of poor doctrinal issues also and believe in prophets as well. I suppose all of them are doomed in your all-knowing eyes on the same grounds?

Second, who are YOU to judge other’s salvation based on their non-essential doctrinal interpretations?

I’ve already addressed such high-mindedness in my post above.

 

Politics makes strange bedfellows and you are now in bed with some of the Fundamentalists who think like you. As for your vague pronouncements, it would be insane to consider them systematic theology and you sound like the sort of theologian that Obama is.

 

You are the one sounding liberal and ecumenical, as Obama is.

 

You are beating a dead horse, Zaac. Dr. Carson Is incapable in foreign policy and in domestic security issues. So it is very unlikely that Hillary will see Dr. Carson as an opponent. That does not meant that Dr. Carson is not highly intelligent and very likeable--two things that Obama is not. As you know, blacks will always vote Democrat to bring about a bigger welfare state. As for you opinion of the SDA, it has been duly noted and your evidence has been catalogued.

 

Obama has told too many lies. Obama has not kept us secure from terrorism. It is doubtful that the Clintons could do any better than Obama. Dr. Carson is nice--something Obama is not.

 

What makes Obama so evil is the white blood in him, no?