Why do infants die?

Jesus was talking about children. However, what does he mean? Should we be children or what was he specifically talking about?

It' interesting to note that the context of the discussion is who is to be great in God's kingdom. And Jesus points to a child and says we must humble ourselves. So Jesus is speaking about a characteristic of a child or Characteristics. Accepting, Humble, easily befriended and such. There is no indicator here that Children automatically go to heaven but they have certain attributes that christians must also possess.

 

You pelagian!

 

Everyone is born with a sin nature and therefore destined for hell. It is only by the grace of God that anyone is saved. For those who are able to have faith (that is, over a certain age to understand), they are saved by grace through faith. For infants, who cannot have faith, I believe that they are saved by grace. The fact remains that infants still need to be saved.

That is just my view - it is not possible to support it biblically just as it is not possible to support a contrary view biblically, imo. God does not reveal these issues to us.

 

Truthfully God does not reveal this issue to us but, He did reveal that He is Just and righteous. There is no justice or righteousness in sending someone to hell being unable to understand his options with good and evil.
I agree grace covers it.
MB

 

Marcia, I agree that it is only by the grace of God that anyone is saved. However, I believe that a baby is no different than I in the sense that like an infant, I 'm unable to produce saving faith. I must have faith granted to me and I believe it is the same way for infants. In my unregenerate state, like an infant, I had no capability to save my self by exercising faith. I believe infants (either some or all) get to heaven the exact same way I do. What I think is unclear is whether all infants are granted faith or if only some are. As a father who has lost three infants before birth, my hope rests in God and who He is. Although I do have great hope that those babies are in heaven, my ultimate hope is in my God whom does all things right. Whatever He has decided is right.

 

That's a hard pill to swallow, yet I must concur.

I also must trust what someone just posted on another thread:

...shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Gen 18:25; Because I know that He does right; I may not understand it, but He does right always.

 

Children automatically trust adults. Which is why they have to be taught not to trust strangers. They see no clue of danger comming from a smiling face. They submit quickly because they don't understand aggression. They forgive easily and Love easily all because they haven't a clue of the darker sides of things. They are innocent. Ignorant of evil.
MB

 

We may not understand it, but God may take them.
Because maybe He fears that someone may try to hurt them.
As God wants to protect all children.:saint:

 

I am not sure I equate the first part of your post with the last post. Certainly, children can disobey and do bad things. I think kids (dependent on age) have an idea of evil but for them its more simple than adults. Anyway its the Characteristic Jesus wants us to have. Its not a statement of where children go. I agree with the poster that says God makes the decision and thats good enough for me.

 

Another element to this discussion. I don't think the fact Adam and Eve knew they were naked upon dying spiritually was added as a side note. They knew no shame prior to that point. My son will be 4 in October, and has no problem starting to undress in public after swimming. There is no shame of being naked since he is not spiritually dead. Quite interesting...

 

So shameless adults are not spiritually dead?

Clearly not. Therefore awareness is subsequent to reality.

 

One can claim to not be shamed, but it is flawed reality.

 

According to your soteriology, you are correct. According to Scripture, you are not.

 

Romans 7 is the best. "apart from the law sin lies dead,....sin sprang to life and I died"

 

You're confounding Paul's statement of awareness with the actual chronological order of reality.

Read Romans 1 & 2 -- it appears all have died, with or without the law.