Why do the CONs want to withold Medical Care from those who need it?

Given the evil of big government demonstrated in your example why do you favor an even more intrusive dictatorship of the Marxists?

As a Christian are you not obligated to help your friend?

 

Obama also claims to be God's partner! How is that for ego?

 

Section 1233 provides the very logical basis for Governor Sarah Palin's comments regarding "death boards". Rationing of medical care is the intent of this section otherwise the democrats would have accepted a Republican amendment specifically excluding rationing or death boards. Same thing goes for taxpayer funding of abortions.

Some on this Forum have taken issue with the Governor's use of the term "death boards' claiming that term does nor appear in the bill; even the democrats are not that stupid.

It still amazes me the number of people who think the democrat party is the party of compassion when they rabidly support the slaughter of the unborn and just born and now are proposing to ration health care to those in need. It is a historical fact that the Marxist mind cares nothing for the life of the masses.

 

This clip explains how he can get away with that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKH6Gw1TC8&feature=related

 

I believe this is the difference. I believe it is the government's job and not just the church. Because of this we will never be in agreement. We disagree on the scope of what the government should do.

 

Jesus did not address every situation a person could face. When it comes to health care, I trust the government more than I do the baptist churches I have been a member of by far!

 

So that makes you a socialist at best and a fascist/communist at worst!

 

I'm sure you do.

Where is that in the Constitution?

If it's the government's job, then why did Jesus tell us to do it and not the government?

...and on the authority of God's word.

 

Then they should admit you. (Was that a trick question or something?)

Where did I ask you this? I don't recall asking anything about being admitted to the hospital. I think that, once again, you just made something up rather than address the actual facts.

 

Of course. Was that confusing?

Probably. I can't imagine they want to expose themselves to multi-million dollar lawsuits by breaking federal law and refusing to follow a doctor's advice. Can you imagine the amount of money they would have to pay out to the family of someone they refused to admit based on doctor's orders?

No. You probably never have either, so you don't know.

I have done without a lot of things in life to pay for insurance. And I have only been admitted to the hospital three times: Once so that insurance would pay for a test when I was in high school, and twice for the same back incident (herniated disk). The truth is that I would have a lot more money if I wasn't buying insurance. But I do.

 

Lets see, you are a member of a Baptist church that you do not trust. To be a member implies giving tithe, time and talents. So you are investing all these resources in an institution that you do not trust. Yep, makes about as much sense as your explaination of history, government, and the Constitution.

Now, on the second point, I just wanted to be sure I understand. You trust the federal government which is run by self-indulgent, power hungry, thugs that steal from the American people more than a local Baptist New Testement church, which is headed by the Lord. Well, at least you are consistant. A lack of understanding and common sense unify both ideas.

Heres your sign.

 

Well someone is fudging here.

Here is what the SSA says about working while disabled -

"Trial work period—The trial work period allows you to test your ability to work for at least nine months. During your trial work period, you will receive your full Social Security benefits regardless of how much you are earning...

"After your trial work period, you have 36 months during which you can work and still receive benefits for any month your earnings are not 'substantial.' In 2009, earnings of $980 or more ($1,640 if you are blind) are considered substantial." - SOURCE

So as long as your friend was earning, or theoretically earning, no more than $980 a month he should be in no danger of losing benefits.

 

Strange! And you are a socialist. Doesn't say much for your power of reason!

 

Well, wait a second...

If a person is so destitute he/she requires public assistance BUT then "donates" his/her "free time" to any volunteer service...he/she is therefore well enough to earn money through paid work.

That's how the system works, this side of heaven.

 

Hi

Being french, i'm sure you can imagine how scaring the " american " system can be FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, we never really understood how it works (which doesn't help to be honest), and after i saw Michael Moore's Sicko movie, we were totally down imagining people over there.

These words were not a flame or a critic, but a way, as nobody knows me here, to know where i'm starting from, in my opinion.

Some time ago, i read an article from the International Herald Tribune, and the journalist was explaining how amazing the french system was, once he was being cured for cancer, and the fact it didn't cost him anything.

Here, everybody pays charges for the " health system ". Our grands live longer and cost more in health, technology improves but is expensive (scanner, irms, new treatments ....), and so on ...
To be honest, yes, it is expensive. I'm in good health, and the money withdrawn from what i'm paid for goes for the other, and yes it has a cost for me.
But, maybe, one day i'll need the other to care about my own health, because i'll need it, and that's just the way i'm thinking about that, and agree with that form of solidarity. If tomorrow the government says " we need to improve around 10 % the taxes to keep the health system ", then i'll say " do it, but keep it ".

About the american US system, two things really shocked me reading it, and i need you to say " yes it's possible " or " no, it's wrong ". I'm not judging american about their system, people vote and elect those who do, or have the power to change things.

- Is it possible to be ... let's say from the mid class ... become very sick (let's say cancer). And have to sell your house to pay the treatment ? Is there a limit where your insurance says " it costs too much, we're at the limit, we won't pay more for your treatment " ?

- Once i saw the Sicko movie, i wondered, seeing the guy who had 2 fingers cut, if it was true that the hospital gave him the price for getting both of his fingers back (tens of thousands of your us dollars for each finger), and that the guy had to choose, considering how much he had on his account, what finger he would get back from surgery (and finally lost one) ?

 

Take everything you saw in sicko and throw it out. Micheal Moore has been discredited and he is a socialist liar.