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Why Is the ESV "Better" Than Other English Versions?

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Jamal5000, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. Japheth

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    First of all a person needs to get saved to miss Hell, when I was lost and heard about it it scared me to think of an eternity there..Second,have you ever seen the originals?? Third, you called it like you saw it, I AM a KJVONLY-ITE, besides I have done the comparisons and they ( the North African texts) come up short.
    I am nether a Greek or a Hebrew so what good is it for me to study these languages, God seen fit for US to have His word in English!! If the NA texts derived from a original, then the missing and partialy missing verses must have never been there to begin with. So how do you explain Luke 24:40, Mrk 9:44-46, Acts 8:37,Acts 4:27,30,John 4:24, and Heb 4:8& Acts 7:45?? Most of these verses discount the Lord Jesus Christ's diety....

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  2. ChristianCynic

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    First of all a person needs to get saved to miss Hell, when I was lost and heard about it it scared me to think of an eternity there..

    "Salvation" resulting from fear of the word hell is water-bucket salvation... all you want is the fire to be put out.

    Third, you called it like you saw it, I AM a KJVONLY-ITE, besides I have done the comparisons and they ( the North African texts) come up short.
    I am nether a Greek or a Hebrew so what good is it for me to study these languages,


    To do the comparisons you said you have done; that's what. And since you don't want to study the biblical languages, then these "comparisons" are likely comparing the English translations which use these manuscripts against the KJV, for which you already have your mind made up. Even if you have done comparions in the biblical languages, your preconceived bias would interfere with it being anything like a true objective comparison.

    God seen fit for US to have His word in English!!

    Any language with competent linguists can make translations-- which, by the way, are neither commanded nor prohibited in the scriptures. That is why the idea that there must be ONE true Bible for a particular language is doctrine out of thin air, not from the scripture itself.

    If the NA texts derived from a original, then the missing and partialy missing verses must have never been there to begin with.

    How conslusively true and brilliant!

    So how do you explain ...?? Most of these verses discount the Lord Jesus Christ's diety....

    And, as Scott demonstrated above, some KJV verses also discount the Lord Jesus Christ's deity.

    A new question: If anything in the KJV is, and necessarily must be, true inspired scripture, do you show the "signs of them that believe" in Mark 16:17-18?... do you speak with new tongues? cast out devils? take up serpents? drink "any deadly thing" and remain unhurt? and lay hands on the sick and they recover?
     
  3. TomVols

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    Can we get back on topic, please?
     
  4. DocCas

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    Was that statement a general statement made to all believers for all time or a specific statement made only to those who were standing there before Him at that time?
     
  5. ChristianCynic

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    ""And these signs shall follow them that believe..."-- Mark 16:17a.

    Does "them that believe" include or exclude anyone other than "those who were standing there before Him at that time?"

    PS: TomVols, evidently the answer to your question is 'No,' by at least 2 of us.

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  6. Japheth

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    Message deleted...off topic.

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  7. Chris Temple

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    Time to shut this thread down, and it has diverted (again) into KJVOism. :(
     
  8. TomVols

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    Further messages not on topic will be deleted, NQA.

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  9. Japheth

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    Message off topic...deleted.

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