Why Isn't This Racism?

Proof?

Maybe you didn't say "everyone" from Lynchburg is a Falwellist...but it sure sounds like it when you can relate a persons hometown to them being a Falwellist.

 

Google is your friend. For starters, CLICK HERE.

Falwell's racism is well documented. He may have mellowed a bit over the years, but he was definitely a segregationist and preached racism early on.

 

I'd like to see the proof as well.

I do remember this...:wavey:

 

No. That's why he considers me to be an idiot. You see if blacks wanting to vote for a black is racist then certainly white males for all of our history have been racist and anti-female because they have never nominated anything but white males.

 

Why must we as Christians act this way? Are we not "all" created in His image?

 

Fallwellism as you describe it, well....all of these negative labels created to describe Christians aren't constructive imo. This includes Warranism.
The man is dead, he cannot defend himself.

Everyone makes mistakes. That was about four decades ago so I think we can forgive Mr. Fallwell for any racism remarks or action from when he was young, especially since he is rooted in the South. Hanging on to hate only hurts.

 

No hanging onto hate here. Just pointing out facts that I was asked to supply. I am no fan of Falwell, but hate him? No. That would be wasted energy.

 

Barkley also said he wasn't a role model. Unfortunately anyone in the media children will look up to.
He is a racist and a hypocrite.

He never won a final so he wasn't that great. :wavey:

 

Alright...

 

Wow...it's funny when I define terms, because you assign your own meaning to the word?

Since when was discussing something rationally funny?

I find it sad that you'll make blanket statements about ethnicities and cover it up with, "It's OK, we're all racist..."

 

Excellent post! :thumbs:

I would add that the difference with Obama is OBAMA-- although it is possible that Colin Powell would have had a similar level of support. I personally know a young man who is working with the Obama campaign (some others of you may as well, of course), and I believe the grassroots effort of the Obama campaign--which shows tremendous leadership and dedication, by the way--is what accounts for EVERY skin-color of folks voting for the man. Whether any of us here in this discussion like him or not, it is certainly obvious that Obama is a charismatic speaker and inspirational to a public that is desperately wanting new, fresh leadership (not intending to slam Bush--just quoting polls there).

Living in the south, I can UNFORTUNATELY say that race IS still an issue with SOME people. I personally know some people (they are older white males) that wouldn't vote for ANY "person of color"--nor would they vote for a woman--and these people are shocked and disgusted by this year's election situation. I also know some hispanic people in the area here who wouldn't vote for Obama--simply because he is black. This IS racism, REAL racism...and these are personal, real experiences and knowledge of specific individuals. I don't have that personal knowledge of the motivation of a single black person.

There are many women who--at least until recently--were going to vote for Hillary (and publicly stated so) simply because she was a woman. Being female, I myself think that's stupid--I don't want to experience history in the making with HER as POTUS....and I would myself NEVER vote for someone just because they were male or female or undecided or white or black or green or purple. But, at the same time, I CAN understand the feeling of excitement that "well, YES, there was a real possibility that a woman might get elected to the presidency--WOW.".....and so I can kinda understand why that feeling would be magnified to the nth degree for the african-american community as they look at this potentiality. And, as Mr. Sutton so eloquently commented, it doesn't much seem like racism when you consider all the information.

Above all, it is sad that this discussion is even necessary, and especially that it can cause so much discord within the body of Christ. For we know that He sees not the color of our skin, but the "color" of our hearts. :1_grouphug:

 

I appreciate your calling me a blind racist. Shows lots of class.

Having looked at some of your other posts, I feel sorry for you. You really seem to have a problem with race. Hope you get better.

I'm out...sorry I stepped back in.

 

thing is, mes, you seem to have the opinion that everyone has a struggle with racism - I don't believe that's true. It certainly is something that causes many people to stumble, but that doesn't mean that if a person declares himself not-racist then he must be hiding something or lying to himself. Some people really haven't got that problem....

There's probably "an" element of racism in his support - but there is in lots of elections. Some people vote for a candidate based on how gray his hair is or how nice his clothes are. I don't see it as a large element though.

Just about the only positive thing I can say about Obama is that he doesn't seem to be using the race-card - he in fact seems to be downplaying it.

 

Whether he is black, brown, chocolate, purple, polka-dotted or whatever makes no difference

I wanted like crazy for Colin Powell to run for President----and I'm white

I wanted like crazy for "Stormin'" Norman Swartscoft to run for President---and I'm white

I wanted like crazy to see a showdown between Little Miss Priss Hillary Clinton and Condalezza Rice---and I'd 'a voted for Condy in a New York Second----and I'm white


Race isn't the issue for me

What will become an issue is

if Obama wins the election will he take the oath of office with his hand on the Holy Scripture or will his hand be on the koran----THATS when it becomes an issue----but both white and black Americans are so stupid about each other---whether he makes the oath on the Truth from the Truth or whether he takes the oath on a bunch of false statements would really make no difference----God help us all when that happens!!!

 

IMO, it is!

It's just as racist to vote for a man because he is black than it is not to vote for a man who is black.

I am not voting for Obama, but it has nothing to do with his race. I wouldn't vote for him if he were white. I don't like his platform.

 

Do you really think these things define black culture? So all blacks are criminals, alcoholics, gang members, thiefs, determined to bring down property values to spite you.......? It doesn't decribe any of the adult blacks I know, any more than the adult whites I know. You need to stop watching so much TV.

Sopranette

 

I wouldn't buy into that, friend. Majority of whites are racist, some just don't know it, some know it but won't admit it, and some just plain know it and don't care.

There's a wee bit minority that truly are "color-blind". I hope their number grows.