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Featured Why Most of Your Church Don't Believe in Tithing

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by gb93433, Feb 20, 2012.

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  1. DaChaser1

    DaChaser1 New Member

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    Did cain/Able bring the Lord first fruits/ a Tithe?
    Did Abraham pay a tithe to Melchizedek?

    Werent they before the law was given to Moses, so why was it under the law only?
     
    #21 DaChaser1, Feb 21, 2012
  2. gb93433

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    My wife and I were married in a church that gave 50% of its receipts to missions each year. They had 4 pastors and 1.5 secretaries. The pastors led the lay people in ministry. They trained and encouraged the leaders. One of the pastors told me that there was a waiting line for leadership. The people in that church did not tithe. They gave.
     
    #22 gb93433, Feb 21, 2012
  3. DaChaser1

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    God will honor and receive under giving under a tithe principle or free will giving, as long as its 'from the heart/right attitude!"
     
    #23 DaChaser1, Feb 21, 2012
  4. gb93433

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    I think we must rememebr that in those days the religious establishment and government were one. Today we have several governments and religions in America. The government typically alone demands more than 23.33%. So if we adhere to the tithe and the combination of the church and government then either the government or my church would owe money.

    I have wondered if that is the reason Jesus and Paul taught giving. Giving would do away with the complexity of that issue and it would also level out the standard of living for all. The rich would lower their standard of living so the poor could have theirs raised.
     
    #24 gb93433, Feb 21, 2012
  5. DaChaser1

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    just was asking if fthe principle just might have been from god BEFORE the law was given!
     
    #25 DaChaser1, Feb 21, 2012
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    Gb9...

    One and a half secretaries! :laugh:
     
    #26 Alive in Christ, Feb 21, 2012
  7. gb93433

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    You know one was the head and the other was not.
     
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    Ha! I have encountered some sectretaries like that! :eek:
     
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    The head secretary had been there for about 30 years and she was great. The other was part time.
     
    #29 gb93433, Feb 21, 2012
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    What does "believe in tithing" mean? What is there to believe in it?
     
    #30 Alcott, Feb 21, 2012
  11. DaChaser1

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    believe in the sense that God will honor those who apply the principle!
     
    #31 DaChaser1, Feb 22, 2012
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    2 Corinthians 9:7 "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."
     
    #32 jbh28, Feb 22, 2012
  13. DaChaser1

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    Yes!

    regardless if convicted that God wants a tithe or free will offering, need to follow that principle you quoted!
     
    #33 DaChaser1, Feb 22, 2012
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    And how do you verify, or unverify, that?
     
    #34 Alcott, Feb 22, 2012
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    based upon the word of God!
     
    #35 DaChaser1, Feb 22, 2012
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    in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory,

    Will there be the tithe or free will giving? Or anything?
     
    #36 percho, Feb 22, 2012
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    I just read the whole thread and did not see the principle I live by, which is: in the NT epistles, which explain the church, the tithe is not taught because ALL of what we are and have belongs to God, not just a tenth. A tithe, a mere tenth, is much too small.

    "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." ( 1Co 6:19-20)

    I know a millionaire who became that after he went bankrupt. He went to God and asked what he should give to God's work. He started out with only a tenth, which he increased as God blessed, and now gives over 50%, and has contributed to the start of two Bible colleges.

    A mere tenth? It is to laugh. A person who thinks God is satisfied with a mere tenth will never give his entire life to Christ, and thus never put himself in a position where God could call him or her as a missionary.
     
    #37 John of Japan, Feb 23, 2012
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    AWESOME word John. Thank you for that.
     
    #38 annsni, Feb 23, 2012
  19. DaChaser1

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    Sounds like your friend has the "spiritual" Gift of giving from the Lord!
     
    #39 DaChaser1, Feb 23, 2012
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    seems that it just might be combination of tithe as a standard reference point, with free will offerings above that, as the Lord blesses!

    And his friend sounds like one who has been blessed with "gift of giving!"
     
    #40 DaChaser1, Feb 23, 2012
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