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Why President Obama Might Win in 2012

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Sapper Woody, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. Winman

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    I said myself it would sound crazy. But maybe it's not.

    I should have said Arab.

    http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

    Then you are unaware, there has been much written on this. As was mentioned, two known homosexuals who attended his church were mysteriously murdered in one month back in 2007 just as Obama started his campaign. Another died from illness within the same month. Family members of these victims have said they were Obama's lovers.

    Then there is the story of Larry Sinclair who said he engaged in homosexual acts and used cocaine with Obama back in 1999 I believe. Google it, it is easy to find.

    Edit- here is a video on the subject.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqxmn1ZuMw4
     
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  2. Salty

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    Keep in mind that the Democrats help nominated Romney due to open primary laws

    The Govt should keep its nose out of party politics
     
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    Where did Winman say Muslim was a race or ethnicity?

    Could it be that Obama could be the next Grover Cleveland of 1892

    That would be 120 years - Does the number 120 have any (Biblical) significance"


    What do you mean "theoretical" I believe all should pay fed tax - and the fairest way is the automatic electronic tax.
    BTW, the "payroll tax" is not a tax - it is a interest free loan to the government.
    I will agree about DMV fees. Here in NY, when a person buys a new car, the State will charge you 50-100 just to print up a new registration for you to TRANSFER plates from your old car to your new one. No justification at all.

    and far as equity - don't forget traffic fines - anything from parking tickets to speeding tickets..
    If a lawyer gets a $300 speeding ticket - thats about one hour pay for him - so will it really deter him? But for a lower wage earner - that $300 is a full weeks pay.



    Okay explain the difference


    So since the mainstream media has not reported it,- it must be untrue.
    Have you checked any of the references?
     
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  5. Winman

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    Interesting observation. Note that Grover Cleveland won the popular vote in 1888, but not the Electoral College. It would be very interesting if that happened this election. Actually, it might be a disaster, there would probably be riots.

    Another interesting note about Grover Cleveland I found humorous;

    I think Obama went to this same school. :laugh:
     
  6. InTheLight

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    He executed his plan, the $881 Billion stimulus bill and it failed. Romney only needs to remind people of this. Also it's 3 1/2 years into Obama's term, no other recovery has taken as long.


    Not a huge issue with the majority of voters.


    Already off the radars of most people. Think of Bush 1 and his 80% approval rating after the U.S. liberated Kuwait in winter 1991. That was long gone by election season.


    Not a huge issue with the majority of voters.

    This dog won't hunt. Obamacare was totally the Democrats creation. If Obama didn't get what he wanted it was a failure of leadership. The Dems held closed door meetings and no Republicans voted for it.

    This just isn't that important of an issue with most voters.

    The overriding issue is the economy. No sitting president has been re-elected with unemployment where it stands right now, unless there was dramatic movement downward. (FDR was the exception) I think Reagan got re-elected in 1984 with an unemployment rate of around 7% but it had been dropping fast from over 10% and the economy was well on its way to recovery. In contrast unemployment rate under Obama almost reached 10% and it's only been reduced to 8.3%.

    Still, Obama could be re-elected because he's got tons of money to spend on advertising and his campaign of class envy, "the rich need to pay their fair share", will resonate with a lot of folks.
     
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  7. Borneol

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    It has the appearance of being a close race between Mitt Romney and President Obama. I suspect with the poor economy, and ideas tried over the past 3 years not working, that Obama will have a difficult time winning in November. But then again FDR was in a similar position, with a lousy economy and poor performance from economic ideas tried and yet he won elections over and over.

    I'm guessing though that times are different from when FDR was in office. Americans today have experience with large government ideas. As we have found government isn't all that good at solving problems. Obama is the latest big government candidate.

    I have John Stossel's new book on order on how government does a poor job of solving problems. I'm looking forward to reading it. Imagine in FDR's day, the opposite was thought, that government could.

    "NO, THEY CAN'T! Airs This Sunday at 9pm and Midnight ET on Fox News"

    snippet from his article:


    Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/s...ay-9pm-and-midnight-et-fox-news#ixzz1wkYTDkcv
     
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    You seem to get around quite well and have a clear mind for remembering the Presidency of Grover Cleveland. LOL
     
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    Obama vs Romney? :laugh:

    Continuing the rule of banks and corporations over the people of the USA and the world.

    They aren't even trying to hide the fact both these guys carry water for the same banksters and corporitos anymore.
     
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    There are others signs which are causing some DNC Panic/Heartburn e.g. Contents of Obama Book - eats dog, does hard core drugs, etc.

    RE:General Public:
    Polls are doing relatively poorly for Obama. He should have a definite lead being the incumbent. Romney has even had the lead on occassion.

    Internal support: Many high level devotees are jumping/have jumped ship, being disregarded, etc.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/dowd-dreaming-of-a-superhero.html?ref=opinion

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/06/02/obama-gets-left-behind/


    HankD
     
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    You are uninformed. Google it.

    One source, there are others:


    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-776220



    You need more education on this matter. There are numerous sources.

    There are numerous threads on these issues here on the Politics forum. You might get yourself up to speed by reading some of them and the source links.

    From FAL's link: http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
     
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