Why start an online BB ministerial academy?

Dear Exscentric,
That is a good idea.I will check with those sites.

 

Bill
"I am truly sorry you are so busy. You would have been perfect to teach church history."
"
You flatter me, but my knowledge of American baptist history is rather limited.
At the university where I studied churchhistory (and this was typical for most Dutch universities that offered that study back then) you could either focus on Protestantism (actually the history of the Dutch Reformed church and the history of related churches abroad all covered in excruciating detail), or Catholicism (covering both the history of High Church denominations worldwide and an in depth treatment of the history of the RCC in the Netherlands).
I picked Catholicism as my focus because it had the same sort of instinctive appeal to me that any 6 year old child feels when (s)he hears words like dinosaur or knight.

Sorry for the distraction, will be praying for your project.
Julie

 

Dear Rhetorician,
Speaking of steering comittees,could I get you to get UZThD and Exscentric to work together and come up with a statement of faith.
As a no brainer on the Academic side we need to include the following for openers:
O.T. Survey
N.T. Survery
Bible Doctrine
Theology
Homiletics
Hermeneutics
Apologetics
Manners and Customs of Bible Times
Survey of Christian History
The Life of Christ
The Pentatuech
The Pauline Epistles
This would cover the first two years of academic instruction.

Practical Instruction:

Personal Evangelism
Missions & Missionary Work
Church Planting
Church Music,How to lead the congregational singing and How to train a Chiormaster.
Church Administration and Management

There is a general idea of what I think the first two years should look like.Of course this is all subject to discussion and agreement.I am interested in input from all interested parties.
Biblical archeology

 

Yes

 

I would strongly suggest we get our students to make as thier primary purchase of resource material "The Master Christian Library", it can be purchased from Ages Software on-line for $59.
Contents are as follows:
CATEGORIES AUTHOR COLLECTIONS
Bibles
Reference
Commentaries
Illustrations - Quotations
Ministry
Bible Studies
Fiction
Historical
Theology
Biographies
Holiness
Inspirational
Ante-Nicene Fathers
Nicene & Post-Nicene Fathers
Maps
SON Light Maps TM
Anderson
Bunyan
Calvin
Edwards
Finney
Law
Luther
Moody
Owen
Pink
Spurgeon
Wesley


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BIBLES

King James Version - Old & New Testament
King James Version [w/Strong’s Numbers] - Old & New Testament
American Standard - Old & New Testament
Darby Translation - Old & New Testament
Young’s Literal Bible Translation - Old & New Testament
Weymouth’s NT in Modern Speech - New Testament
La Santa Biblia (Reina-Vlera, 1909) - Old & New Testament
Jerome (Latin Translation) - The Vulgate
REFERENCE

William Brown - The Tabernacle: Its Priests and Its Services
M. G. Easton - Bible Dictionary
Roswell Hitchcock - An Interpreting Dictionary of Scripture Proper Names
Orville Nave - Concise Topical Bible
James Strong - Greek Dictionary, Hebrew Dictionary
R. A. Torrey - New Topical Textbook, What the Bible Teaches
Walter L. Wilson - A Dictionary of Bible Types
International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - 10 Volumes
COMMENTARIES

Joseph Beet - Commentaries on Romans through Philemon
John Calvin - Commentary on Hebrews
John Calvin - Harmony of the Gospels - (3 Vols.)
Adam Clarke - Commentaries - (8 Vols.)
John N. Darby - Synopsis on the Bible - Old & New Testament
Adolf Deismann - The NT in the Light of Modern Research
F. Delitzsch and C. F. Keil - Commentary on the Old Testament (10 Vols.)
W. B. Godbey - New Testament Commentary (4 Vols.)
James M. Gray - The Concise Bible Commentary
Robert Haldane - Exposition of the Epistle to the Romans
Matthew Henry - Concise Whole Bible Commentary
Matthew Henry’s Commentary on The Whole Bible (10 Vols.)
Charles Hodge - Romans, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Ephesians
Innes & Powell - The Trial Of Christ
Jamieson, Faussett & Brown (4 Vols.) - Old & New Testament Commentary
Sir William Ramsay - The Letters to the 7 Churches, Born In Bethlehem?
C. H. Spurgeon - Commentary on Matthew
Marvin Vincent - NT Word Studies (4 Vols.)
Thomas Watson - The Lord ’s Prayer
John Wesley - Notes On The Bible - New Testament, Old Testament
ILLUSTRATION - QUOTATION COLLECTION

Classic Sermon Illustrations
Pearls From Many Seas
Aesop’s Fables
2010 Popular Quotations
C.B.Strang - Meeting Life Situations
MINISTRY

Richard Baxter - The Reformed Pastor
Thomas Coke - Duties Of The Minister Of The Gospel
John N.Darby - On Ministry: Its Nature, Source of Power & Responsibility
BIBLE STUDIES

Stanley Derickson - Notes On Theology, A Study Course, Bible Studies - Vol. 1-5
FICTION

George MacDonald - At The Back Of The North Wind
COLLECTIONS

Sir Robert Anderson
Forgotten Truths
Gospel & Its Ministry
Redemption Truths
Silence Of God
The Coming Prince
The Lord Of Heaven And Earth - Types In Hebrews
John Bunyan
Complete Works: Volumes 1-9
The Holy War
Pilgrim ’s Progress
John Calvin
Institutes of the Christian Religion - Volumes 1-4
Jonathan Edwards
Volumes 1-6
Charles G.Finney
Sermons (3 Vols.)
Lectures on Theology
Lectures On Revival
Revival Fire
Lectures to Professing Christians
Power From On High
Systematic Theology
Making A New Heart
William Law
A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life
The Spirit of Love
The Spirit of Prayer
An Address to the Clergy
An Appeal to Doubters
Justification by Faith and Works
The Way to Divine Knowledge
Collection of Letters
The Grounds and Reason of Christian Regeneration
A Defense of the Lord’s Supper
Martin Luther
Good Works
Preface To Romans
Table Talk
95 Theses
The Large Catechism
The Small Catechism
The Smalcald Articles
Dwight L.Moody
Bible Characters
The Home Work
Prevailing Prayer
Secret Power
Twelve Select Sermons
The Way To God
Wondrous Love
John Owen
Volumes 1-6
Arthur W.Pink
The Divine Inspiration of the Bible
The Godhead of God
The Law and the Saint
C.H.Spurgeon
Sermons: 250 Selected Expositions (4 Vols.)
According To Promise
All of Grace
Faith’s Checkbook
Commentary on Matthew
Morning and Evening: Daily Readings
A Puritan Catechism
Till He Come: Communion Meditations
John Wesley
The Complete Works of John Wesley (14 Vols.)
Volume 1 - Journals, October 14, 1735 - November 29, 1745
Volume 2 - Journals, December 2, 1745 - May 5, 1760
Volume 3 - Journals, December 31, 1760 - September 12, 1773
Volume 4 - Journals, September 13, 1773 - October 24, 1790
Volume 5 - The Life of John Wesley; Sermons, 1-39
Volume 6 - Sermons, 40-86
Volume 7 - Sermons, 87-141
Volume 8 - Addresses, Essays and Letters
Volume 9 - Letters and Essays
Volume 10 - Letters, Essays, Dialogs and Addresses
Volume 11 - Thoughts, Addresses, Prayers, Letters
Volume 12 - Letters
Volume 13 - Letters, Writings
Volume 14 - Grammars, Music, Letters
HISTORICAL

Apocrypha
Nathan Bang - History of the Methodist Episcopal Church (4 Vols.)
Alfred Edersheim - Sketches In Jewish Social Life, The Temple, The Life and Times of Jesus (2 Vols)
Bible History: Volume 1 - Pre-Flood World and Patriarchs
Volume 2 - Exodus and the Wanderings
Volume 3 - Joshua, and The Judges
Volume 4 - Samuel, Saul, and David to the Birth of Solomon
Volume 5 - Birth of Solomon to The Reign of Ahab
Volume 6 - From Ahab to the Decline of the Two Kingdoms
Volume 7 - Decline of the Two Kingdoms to The Captivity
John Foxe - Foxe’s Book of Martyrs
Edward Gibbon -Decline And Fall Of Roman Empire
Volume 1 - Age of Anotonines to Reunion Under Constantine
Volume 2 - Founding of Constantinople to Progress of the Huns
Volume 3 - From Theodosius to Clovis
Volume 4 - From Justiniun to Succession of the Greek Emperors
Volume 5 - Franks’ Conquest of Italy to First Crusade
Volume 6 - The Crusades to Rome in the 15th Century
William Hetherington - History Of The Westminster Assembly
Philip Schaff - The History of the Christian Church (8 Vols.)
R.C.Wetzel - Chronology Of Biblical Christianity
William Whiston - The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus
C.D.Yonge - The Works of Philo
THEOLOGY

Anonymous - Theologia Germanica
Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica (6 Vols.)
James Arminius - The Works Of Arminius
Volume 1 - Orations, Declarations and Public Disputations
Volume 2 - Disputations, Articles and Addresses
Volume 3 - Discussions with Francis Junius
Saint Augustine - Enchiridion
Richard Baxter - The Saint’s Everlasting Rest
Gilbert K. Chesterton - Orthodoxy, Heretics
Adam Clarke - Clavis Biblica
James Denney - The Death Of Christ
John Flavel - Method Of Grace
Charles Hodge - Holy Spirit
Phillip Melanchthon - The Augsburg Confessions
William G. T. Shedd - The Doctrine Of Endless Punishment
Various - Creeds Of The Early Church
George Whitfield - Sermons
Andrew White - The History Of Warfare Of Science With Theology
BIOGRAPHY COLLECTION

D. L. Moody
John Owen
C. H. Spurgeon
John Wesley
Adam Clarke Autobiography, Biography
Charles G.Finney (Autobio)
John Flavel
George Fox (Autobio)
Philip Melancthon - The Life and Acts of Martin Luther
HOLINESS COLLECTION

Wayne C. Aman - The Cross and Crown of Holiness, Fountains and Rivers of Holiness
G. C. Bevington - Remarkable Incidents
L. S. Boardman - Stories
Henry Brockett - The Riches of Holiness
Rev. Beverly Carradine - The Altar Service, Beulah Land, The Better Way, The Bottle, Bundle of Arrows, Bible Characters, Church Entertainments, Gideon, Golden Sheaves, Graphic Scenes, Heart Talks, Jonah, Journey to Palestine, Revival Sermons, Pastoral Sketches, Pen Pictures, People I Have Met, Revival Incidents, The Old Man, Remarkable Occurences, The Sanctified Life, Sanctification, Soul Help
J. B. Chapman - Some Estimates of Life, Holiness:Heart of the Christian Experience, Singing in the Shadows, Present Day Parables
Adam Clarke - Entire Sanctification, Salvation By Faith Proved
Mark Eckart - A Presentation Of Perfection
P. Douglass Gorrie - A Short Biography of Adam Clarke, Lives Of [Holiness] Ministers
Aaron M. Hills - Dying to Live, Holiness and Power, Pentacostal Light
Walter Hilton - The Scale of Perfection
Samuel A. Keen - Faith Papers, Salvation Papers
I. Parker Maxey - We'll Get To That Later
George Ridout - Beauty Of Holiness
W. E. Sheppard - Scriptures
INSPIRATION

Edward M. Bounds - The Preacher & Prayer, The Necessity of Prayer, The Possibility of Prayer
Samuel Brengle - Soul Winners Secret
Jeremiah Burroughs - The Rare Jewel Of Christian Contentment
Bernard of Clairvaux - On Loving God
John Donne - Devotions
John Flavel - Sermons:The Fountain of Life
John Jowett - Sharing His Suffering
Thomas A. Kempis - The Imitation of Christ
Br. Lawrence - Practicing the Presence Of God
Alphonsus de Ligouri - Uniformity With God ’s Will
Hannah W. Smith - The Christian ’s Secret Of A Happy Life
J. Hudson Taylor - A Ribband of Blue and Other Stories
THE ANTE-NICENE FATHERS

Volume 1 - The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus Clement, Mathetes, Polycarp, Ignatius, Barnabas, Papias, Justin Martyr
Volume 2 - Fathers of the Second Century Hermas, Tatian, Theophilus, Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria
Volume 3 - Latin Christianity; Its Founder Tertullian I. Apologetic, II. Anti-Marcion, III. Ethical
Volume 4 - Fathers of the Third Century Tertullian,Minucius Felix, Commodianus, Origen
Volume 5 - Fathers of the Third Century Hippolytus, Cyprian, Caius, Novatian, with Appendices
Volume 6 - Fathers of the Third Century Gregory Thaumaturgus, Dionysius the Great, Julius Africanus, et al
Volume 7 - Fathers of the Third and Fourth Centuries Lactantius,Dionysius of Rome, Teaching of the Apostles, Early Liturgies
Volume 8 - Fathers of the Third and Fourth Centuries Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, Apocrypha of the New Testament, etc
[Volume 9 - Index to the printed edition; now part of search feature]
Volume 10 - Original Supplement to the American Edition
THE NICENE AND POST-NICENE FATHERS - SERIES 1

Volume 1 - Augustin: Confessions and Letters
Volume 2 - Augustin: City of God; Christian Doctrine
Volume 3 - Augustin: Trinity; Doctrinal & Moral Treatises
Volume 4 - Augustin: Anti-Manichaen & Anti-Donatist Writings
Volume 5 - Augustin: Anti-Pelagian Writings
Volume 6 - Augustin: Sermon On Mount; Gospel Harmony & Homilies
Volume 7 - Augustin: Gospel & Epistles of John; Soliloques
Volume 8 - Augustin: Expositions on the Psalms
Volume 9 - Chrysostom: The Priesthood; Treatises, Letters, etc
Volume 10 - Chrysostom: Matthew
Volume 11 - Chrysostom: Acts and Romans
Volume 12 - Chrysostom: I and II Corinthians
Volume 13 - Chrysostom: Galatians to Philemon
Volume 14 - Chrysostom: Gospel of John and Hebrews
THE NICENE AND POST-NICENE FATHERS - SERIES 2

Volume 1 - Eusebius, The Writings of
Volume 2 - Socrates Sozomenus; Church Histories
Volume 3 - Theodaret; Jerome; Gennadius; Rufinus
Volume 4 - St. Athanasius: Selected Writings
Volume 5 - Gregory of Nyssa
Volume 6 - St. Jerome: Letters
Volume 7 - Cyril of Jerusalem; Gregory of Nazianzen
Volume 8 - St. Basil: Selected Works
Volume 9 - St. Hilary of Potiers; John of Damascus
Volume 10 - St. Ambrose: Selected Works
Volume 11 - Sulpitus Severus; Vincent of Lerins; John Cassian
Volume 12 - Leo the Great; Gregory the Great
Volume 13 - Ephraim Syrus; Aphrathat
Volume 14 - The Seven Ecumenical Councils; The Nicene Creed
CLASSIC MAPS

Ancient World - After Flood Jerusalem -Environs
Ancient World - Settlements Journey in the Wilderness
Armenia, Assyria, Etc. Journeys of Paul
Canaan - Patriarchs Journeys of Paul 2
Canaan - Twelve Tribes Judah and Israel
Countries of Jewish Captivity 1 Palestine - Central
Countries of Jewish Captivity 2 Palestine - North
Dominions - David and Solomon Palestine - Physical Map
Egypt - Horeb Pennisula Palestine - Physical Map 2
Herod’s Temple Palestine - South
Jerusalem (Circ. 1900) Palestine - Time of Christ
Jerusalem - Ancient Sea of Galilee

 

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I would agree to help write a statement of faith. As I don't know what might be involved with being a member of the steering committee, I cannot at this time express a willingness to do that.

Bill Grover

 

James Bell Will be contacting you he is WebMaster.

Statement of faith...What you 3 can agree on. I know all 3 of your basic theology so I feel safe at this point.

I have to go to work and will be back at roughly 10pm pacific time.

 

As soon as I have something to put on a website, I will gladly do it. In fact, I have a couple of things thrown together just to see how it looks. I will work over the weekend with any material I am given and get an "outline" site posted for you all to review next week.

 

POB and James

appreciate your work.

Bill Grover

 

Plain Old Bill
"The Master Christian Library" you mention sounds like a truly excellent resource.
Just make sure that the students fully realize the purpose for which each individual book in the collection was written and the context in which each book was written.

 

The Statement of Faith and a mission statement will be going on the Web Page so we need to get those to James Bell.I will put a draft of a mission statement here for all to review and make comments on.
When you have drafted the SOF would you please submit it to Paul33 and C4K for review and comments. You may feel free to contact them through PM or e-mail.
I will be popping in and out over the next 4 days.We are selling the farm and looking for a house in th flatlands.In addition to the I have to go to work.Plus I have a little writing to do myself,plus a little research.

 

It's late I'm getting rummy. I can't spell and I can't type correctly right now please excuse my errors.

 

My suggestion for a belief statement.

I apologize to Rhet if this is out of order. As one might imagine, some existing creeds represent the results of struggles of denominations or associations to define themselves, consequently, at times, these are too precise, I suppose, for our use. So, here is one, I just wrote, which is more general.


We believe:


1. The 66 Books of the Bible in their wording in the originals are inspired and inerrant and are the final authority over belief and practice.

2. There is only one GOD, who eternally exists in three Persons , Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which Persons are perfectly equal in nature, attributes, power, and glory. God is creator of man and the universe.

3. Man is born a sinner, thus in need of salvation, because of the transgression of Adam, and consequently man is unable except by grace to choose and love God

4. God the Father loves man so greatly that He gave His only Son to save man by the Son's vicarious death, and the salvific merits of this death are applied only to those who believe and accept Christ as Lord and Savior.

5. God the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, who , by His virginal conception is now both true man and true God , existing in one Person, with no blending of the attributes of His two natures, died a redeeming, substitutionary death for our sin , was bodily resurrected and ascended , now intercedes for us as our High Priest, and He will personally and physically return to earth.

6. God the the Holy Spirit applies to individuals, who only are saved by grace through faith, the salvation merited by the redeeming death of Jesus Christ.

7. This salvation attained by faith, not works, includes forgiveness of sins, a new nature and giftedness ,empowered by the Holy Spirit, to love and serve God, being at physical death in the presence of God Himself instead of in a literal place of eternal punishment , and receiving a resurrected and glorified body at the time of Christ's second coming.

8. The Church is the body of Christ and members of local churches should be baptised in water by immersion , not to save, but because this is commanded and exemplified by the apostolic churches, and Christians also should regularly participate in the Lord's Supper as a memory of His death and next coming. The local church has offices as elders (pastors, bishops) and deacons. The church exists to worship God, edify the saints, and reach the lost.

9. Christians are to consistently grow in grace through prayer, worship, service, witnessing, learning, and fellowship, and total surrender to God.

10. We recognize that indivuals connected with our Academy may hold beliefs more comprehensive and more particularized than are these.

[ July 29, 2005, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: UZThD ]