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Why the left hates Sarah Palin

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    Why do you HATE Obama?

    Because he's a socialist, Chicago thug style, baby killing, inexperienced, elitist, terrorist loving slimeball.
     
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    When the left and their minions in the media decided that lies and false accusations should take the place of civil discourse.

    When professing Christians decided to support those who support child murder.

    The attacks on Palin by the left have been laughable (like the wolves) and outright lies about her support for the "bridge to nowhere", to the scurrilous accusation that her daughter actually had the child with downs syndrome, to attacking her morals and values because her teenage daughter actually did get pregnant.

    All because she is a conservative high achieving working Mom .

    That's hate , Bub, and you've bought into it and been a part of it.

    You and KenH should be ashamed of yourselves. Your attacks have ranged from the ridiculous to the personal and hateful to outright lies.

    Hate has to be the driving force.
     
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    You spew you hatred and only on occasion make any sense. I really feel sorry for you. So much anger, so much hatred, so much insecurity.
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    :laugh:

    So much garbage.

    You are the one who needs pity, and prayer, my friend. Carpro demonstrates better discipleship, has a better grasp on the news, and can back up his claims better than you could ever wish for.
     
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    You're right on that one, Jimmy Carter was an awful president.
    The question was why does the left hate Sarah Palin. I merely pointed out it's because she has the hometown moral values like the fly-over part of America which scares the left silly because they know abortion is big business and there is a threat their baby killing machine profiteering days may be over in a few supreme court justice appointments, for one. They know the majority of Americans do not support their gay agenda gay marriage and their sweeping social giveaway programs which have led to our present banking crisis. That's just for starters. Like I said, they are scared silly.

    If you want to get into specifics why we believe she will make an awesome VP, we can start another thread.
     
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    Only because you agree with his political leanings. I still feel sorry for his anger, his hatred and insecurities.

    Democracy, if it is to exist, has to allow for differences of opinion without spewing hatred toward one another. Politics in a democracy is the art of compromise. If this is not allowed then the result is a totalarian government and that is not what you or I want. At least I do not believe you want a totalarian government.
     
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    Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. I have locked horns with Carpro several times. The difference is, I respect him. I believe he respects me.

    I don't feel that with you. I don't think you back your views up very well at all. It's hard to respect someone who's so much opinion, yet so little fact.

    Sorry if it seems like I am bashing you, but I'm being honest.
     
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    I will defend your right to be wrong. Will you do the same for me?
     
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    Nope. I think you are dangerous, your ideology harmful to other Christians, your political ideas immature, and uninformed, and I intend to challenge you when I think it's necessary.
     
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    When you were a kid there wasnt as much difference in the partys as there is now.

    When you were a kid, noone was screaming discrimination against homosexuals because they couldnt get married, that would been deemed riduculous. (which it is)

    When you were a kid, folks werent promoting the legalization of killing living unborn babies as a selfish form of birth control. That would have been considered barbaric. (which it is)

    When you were a kid, actors and millionares, and even reporters put their careers on hold to join our military in time of war. Today, they mostly protest against the very nation that they owe their freedom to. Surrender would have been out of the question, but today the liberals demand it.

    When you were a kid, the flag and our country were held in reverence by both parties, today, one party holds it in contempt.

    When you were a kid, it was expected of you to be moral, and it was ok if you looked to God for that morality. Today, morals are despised and people are ridiculed for worshipping God.

    When you were a kid, our government still looked to godly principles for guidance, but today the liberals shun any mention of God in government and even seek to outlaw any reference to God in conjunction with government.

    No, you cant compare todays polarization of the partys with the way things were "when you were a kid" There is much hate from the far left (Bill Maher and Micheal Moore come to mind as an example), and it is growing daily.

    Times have changed, mostly for the worse.

    AJ
     
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    There were big differences, but the old time politicians seemed to realize that to achieve what they felt was best for the country depended on compromise. Little victories, one at a time, a step-by-step approach.

    But they were screaming about discrimination against other races and people were screaming back. That was a hot topic, especially when I was a teenager and in my 20's. I do not believe being in favor of racial discrimation is a Christian stance.

    Somebody must have been else Roe v Wade would never have come about. And abortions were taking place.

    WW II many things were set aside. Many items were rationed. I still have some of the old ration stamps. That was a real war and not a phony made up war like Iraq is today. I see Conservatives scream about freedom, but they seem to want freedom only for themself. Many of our freedoms have been dimiinisted during the current administration. Only the good Lord knows what may happen with the country as socialized as it has become under G. Bush.

    When you were a kid, the flag and our country were held in reverence by both parties, today, one party holds it in contempt.

    When you were a kid, it was expected of you to be moral, and it was ok if you looked to God for that morality. Today, morals are despised and people are ridiculed for worshipping God.

    Hate to tell you this, but our government has never really followed Godly principles. We have followed the principles of the French Englightenment philosophers.

    Whose God do you want mentioned? We are a pluralistic society, much more so than when I was a kid.

    Believe it or not I have never watched anything produced or written by Bill Maher or Micheal Moore. Extremist on either end of the political spectrum are dangerous. It does not matter if it is a right wing bullet or a left wing noose ... we are still dead.

    Oh, trust me, there are many things better and many things worse. I really hate some of the things that are worse. i.e. the distrust between people of good will on either side of the political spectrum, that our politicians have played on fear and taken many of our freedoms away, that we are now encouraged to spy on our fellow citizens, etc.
     
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    Therein lies a huge part of your problem.

    There is only one God.

    You should know it and stand up for it
     
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    I agree with you, there is only one God. However we do live in a pluaristic society and there are those who do not agree with you. We live in a government where separation of church and state is well founded and is good. Do you know the history behind this stance. It came from Virginia Baptists. Should the god they believe in be allowed to be 'displayed also?

    I have no problem. Do you?
     
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    Where is separation of church & state established ?
     
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    First amendment of the Constitution:

    The words 'separation of church and state' do not appear, but the concept is there. The Virginia Baptist were very much in the fight for this amendment as they had been the victims of the state church of Virginia, the Church of England. Also the Danbury, CT baptist influenced Thomas Jefferson in a letter they sent to him that was dated October 7, 1801. In that letter they wrote the following:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danbury_Baptists#American_Baptists

    In a return letter Jefferson wrote:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danbury_Baptists#American_Baptists

    You can find other links to this information. As a kid growing up in Virginia I was taught that this was something to be very proud of, the part the VA Baptists played in this struggle.
     
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    With Kathleen Parker's column that I posted in a new thread maybe there needs to be a new thread entitled: "Why the right hates Sarah Palin".
     
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    Struggle ? Against who ?

    And the first amendment does not keep church out of the state, it keeps the state out of the church. That is a big difference. The fact is, and always will be, we came to America to worship Christ outside of the rules & law of the Anglican church.

    To escape the pope, if you will. The freedoms we established we felt were from God, not the state. We set up a country where people could worship how they felt. But we based our laws on scripture, the ten commandments, and with a reverence for faith so great, we put it first in our constitution.
     
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    That is one take on the amendment, but not the only one. This might be a good topic of a new thread ... but not in the politics area.
     
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    Well, that has got to be the weakest bail-out in Baptist Board history.

    Can't talk about the constitution in a politics thread ?

    Did you mean that to be funny ?
     
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    No, we can't talk about it because you're right Bro has nothing to do with discussing it in a political forum.
     
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