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why we must get involved politically

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by freedom's cause, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. Gershom

    Gershom Active Member

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    Because the story is anti-Bush. Welcome to Galatian's World.
     
  2. The Galatian

    The Galatian New Member

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    Actually, Bush had a reputation for a temper long before he was in the WH.

    Remember the scene in 1986 when Bush was miffed about a prediction made by Wall Street Journal political writer Al Hunt that Jack Kemp – not then-Vice President George H.W. Bush – would win the Republican presidential nomination in 1988. At a Dallas restaurant, the younger George Bush spotted Hunt having dinner with his wife, Judy Woodruff, and their four-year-old son.

    Bush stormed up to the table and started cursing out Hunt. “You [expletive] [expletive],” Bush yelled. “I saw what you wrote. We’re not going to forget this.” [Washington Post, July 25, 1999]


    More recently:
    Bush’s anger grows with woes
    Staffers experience fruit of frustration.

    New York Daily News
    Published Wednesday, October 26, 2005
    WASHINGTON - "Facing the darkest days of his presidency, President George W. Bush is frustrated, sometimes angry and even bitter, his associates say."


    With 55% of Americans now saying his leadership is a failure. (Gallup), Bush is not responding well.

    It's called "America."

    [ November 05, 2005, 03:21 PM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
  3. Joseph_Botwinick

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    1. I don't care if you are quoting. Those kinds of words are offensive and should not be allowed to stand on a Christian board.

    2. Everybody loses their temper every now and then except for the holy, self-righteous, and pious &lt;personal attack edited&gt;.

    Joseph Botwinick

    [ November 07, 2005, 07:41 AM: Message edited by: Phillip ]
     
  4. Gershom

    Gershom Active Member

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    Galatian,

    Which is worse, the story itself or a christian posting curse words on a Christian forum?
     
  5. Terry_Herrington

    Terry_Herrington New Member

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    Very good deflection.

    Why don't you comment to the facts, and not the poster.

    You are apparently shocked at the posting of some cuss words (none of which I have seen posted), yet the fact that Bush uses these words on a regular basis doesn't seem to bother you in the least. Go figure?
     
  6. Bunyon

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    If Bush was cussing on a regular basis, I think it would be reported more widly, and not just small mentions in bias news papers.
     
  7. Gershom

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    Very good deflection.

    Why don't you comment to the facts, and not the poster.

    You are apparently shocked at the posting of some cuss words (none of which I have seen posted), yet the fact that Bush uses these words on a regular basis doesn't seem to bother you in the least. Go figure?
    </font>[/QUOTE]How do you know these "facts", Terry?? Did you hear George Bush curse? Were you there? Did you you hear him? Or, are you going by what someone else said/rumor/gossip?

    Now, I READ, AS WELL AS OTHER POSTERS HERE, WHAT GALATIAN POSTED HIMSELF. He used profanity freely on a CHRISTIAN FORUM. He's no better than the President he's accusing. So, he, as well as you, need to shut up until you get the FACTS.
     
  8. Terry_Herrington

    Terry_Herrington New Member

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    You are hurting my feelings. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Actually, since you don't decide who does or does not post here, I will exercise the right to speak any time I feel so inclined. So, you need to get used to it. [​IMG]
     
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Lets keep on topic here folks. We have run fairly unmoderated for quite a while - lets not mess that up.
     
  10. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Please add &lt;personal attack edited&gt; to that exclusive list of holy, self-righteous and pious people.

    Joseph Botwinick

    [ November 07, 2005, 07:42 AM: Message edited by: Phillip ]
     
  11. Terry_Herrington

    Terry_Herrington New Member

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    Other than absolute hatred, why would you say this about me?
     
  12. Joseph_Botwinick

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    You are delighting in the moral failures of the president and condemning him for it. This leads me to believe that you are on the exclusive list of holy, self-righteous and pious people. No hatred...just saying something about stones and glass houses.

    Joseph Botwinick [​IMG]
     
  13. Priscilla Ann

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    Joe:

    How odd! When it comes to Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Bill and Hillary Clinton and others you don'g agree with, it's okay to delight in their moral failures. Nothing is off limits when it comes to criticizing Democrats. But criticizing Bush's failures is "self-righteous and pious"? I see a double standard.

    PA
     
  14. Terry_Herrington

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  15. Terry_Herrington

    Terry_Herrington New Member

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    As a matter of fact, I take no pleasure at the failures of this or any other president.

    What I do delight in however, is the possibility that America is waking up to the real integrity of this administration and will therefore elect a democrat to the White House in 2008.
     
  16. Priscilla Ann

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    Terry:

    I also delight in the possibility that America is "waking up the real integrity of this administration". The Bush Administration campaigned on "character and values". Was that really only a year ago? How things have changed!

    PA
     
  17. Bunyon

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    As far as I can tell, there have been no significant moral failures in the
    Bush presidency. And his wife is happy she does not have to share him with 20 yo ladies with a penchent for cigars.
     
  18. StraightAndNarrow

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    We and perhaps the British Govt. are about the only countries that pay any attention at all to the Geneva convention, and because of that, we start off at a big disadvantage militarily.
    J. McCain's treatment and his reaction to being a POW has severly clouded his judgement, and consequently we have horrible legislation such as this, and for some reason or another he is looked on as a future GOP riser, which to me is terrible. I don't think he is stable mentally, and will crack under the strain of campaigning.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I believe that McCain is one of the FEW in Congress that can accept and deal with reality. In my view he always seems to take the logical, practical and morally correct stance. Do you have any data to prove your assertion that the U.S. and the UK are the only nations that abide by the Geneva convention?

    Even IF that were true (and I don't believe that it is true) I would vote that we as a supposed democratic, freedom-loving, and peaceful nation, should take the morally high ground.
     
  19. StraightAndNarrow

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    I'll tell you who's unstable and is going to either do something catastropic or crack down the middle. That's G.W. Bush.
     
  20. Priscilla Ann

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    Bunyon:

    You say, "there have been no significant moral failures in the Bush presidency". Bush's dishonesty about WMD and the war in Iraq is a very "significant moral failure".

    PA
     
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