Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Very well said... Noah was a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5) just like the others. Moses, the Church in the Wilderness (Acts 7:38). God has always had a spokesman to speak to every generation (excluding the 400 years between the testaments) calling sinners to repentance... Well said.

 

I agree... If it were not about forced acceptance they would accept civil unions.

 

You have to get out of that rarified air.

It is only a matter of time unless there is a spiritual awakening in this country. Of course under Shiria Law all such marriages will be terminated.

 

I think you have a valid point.

Bob Jones university is not a church, but a not for profit corporation ... exactly how most of our churches are incorporated in their states.

Non-profits are subject to non-discrimination laws like other corporations are.

Even if exemptions are included for churches in these laws (which has been the case so far), it only takes a single session in a state legislature to remove that exemption, or a ruling from a state Supreme Court or the SCOTUS.

I really believe this will be an avenue of persecution for evangelical church in the U.S.

peace to youraying:

Edit to add this story: Judges legalized same-s*x marriages in Iowa. There is a female "pastor" quoted in the story as saying God put her there to perform these "marriages" or words to that effect.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_re_us/us_iowa_gay_marriage;_ylt=A0LEapeW9fVJE5QAvykGw_IE;_ylu=X3oDMTJucWljaWFmBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNDI3L3VzX2lvd2FfZ2F5X21hcnJpYWdlBGNwb3MDNQRwb3MDNQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrA3NhbWUtc2V4Y291cA--

 

I'm sure that will happen in time. That's why I don't like the idea of the government giving money to churches, or as the government puts it "faith based organizations". Generally, there's always some kind of strings attached. Lawyers are always looking for loopholes so they can make money.

 

As well as all such people

 

Good point... Let's stay in prayer that we all gladly accept the loss of tax exempt status and compromise the beliefs of the Church.

 

Are some (like some militant Christians) going to insist that everyone personally accept their view point? Certainly.

However, Christians do not "own" the USA or the Constitution. In the eyes of the law, gay rights advocates have just as much right to make their case as any other groups.

 

While you are entitled to your opinion, one of the founding principles of the United States was freedom of religion. This is not a theocracy.

 

Straw man..............

 

There is a well funded and wide spread effort among g*y rights groups to use the courts, our schools, our public institutions to force the acceptance of their life style upon our society.

I do not see the same sort of effort among "militant Christians" (whoever that is suppose to be).

They can make their case all they want.

As I said before, I believe it to be an avenue for persecution of the church. I wouldn't be surprised if many "Christian" churches joined in the condemnation of those Christians that stood firm in their beliefs on the issue.

They'll probably call us "militant Christians".

peace to youraying:

 

It is not a straw man. If one intends to apply politically all theological principles, one desires a theocracy.

Not that you will care.

 

This could not be more false.

 

What do you think that the attempt to legislate one particular brand of morality is? Right or wrong, it's basically the same thing--force your way on everyone, whether or not they believe it, because you believe it is "right" or "just."

 

Vintage revmitchell...deny without explanation.

 

I haven't been hearing of any legislating for anything you have been talking about. So far, its been legislating the other way. Allowing homosexuals in our military, allowing them to get married, & talking about homosexuality in schools as early as kindergarten. That's what they are doing in the public schools, they are teaching that homosexuality is okay. Kids need to be protected from that. Pushing a lifestyle onto someone will not make people accept them, it will only repel them.

People can choose to live the way they want to live. I have no problem with that. They can go march in their parades with their rainbow flags & their upside down triangles. However, the choice(s) that people make will have consequences.

 

What do you think that legislation is (in many cases the status quo) that prevents homosexuals from joining the military, getting married, etc? It's the insistence (based on personal belief) that homosexuality is wrong, so it needs to be legally hindered.

 

Are you saying that homosexuality is okay & not sinful?

 

No, I'm saying you can believe that homosexuality is wrong but also believe that it is not the government's place to enforce your beliefs.