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Will Obama choose Hillary as VP?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ps104_33, Jun 7, 2008.

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  1. Ps104_33

    Ps104_33 New Member

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    I think this is a no-brainer. If Obama wants to be next POTUS, this is the only way he has a chance to beat McCain. Do you agree?
     
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    No, I don't. I think this would be the worst choice for him. He needs a VP candidate that is viewed as more moderate-conservative but of course must appeal to Hillary's large constituency.
     
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    Yes, if he doesn't he stands no chance.
     
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    Hillary and Bill are like the WWE tag team champs, they dont function independently of one another. When Bill was president, Hillary was almost like a co-president. Bill thinks he was the greatest president of all time, and I am sure thinks of himself as older and wiser than Obama.

    I cant see Obama agreeing to having Bill as co-vice president and having to put up with his arrogance. Besides, Hillary knows that the DNC beat her out of the nomination and essentially placed Obama as the nominee, and Obama surely doesnt want a disgruntled VP who has a history making nasty verbal attacks against him.

    The Clintons are arrogant and thought the White House was their destiny once again, and are not happy campers. They will not like playing second fiddle to Obama. I beleive that they consider themselves to be more powerful than Obama, and they view themselves as victims of the DNC's bias towards Obama. I just cant see obama wanting to keep them around to snipe at him.

    AJ
     
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    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Everything you say is correct. Politics is pragmatism however. Obama has to know that Clinton is his only road to being president. If he is not pragmatic now he will never be president.
     
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    My take is this: Obama won only because the DNC knows Hillary would be unelectable. The fact that they backed Obama doesn't speak to his credit, but to Hillary's inability to be elected. If they had almost anyone else to back, besides Obama, I think they would have. I think Hillary as VP would doom the quest, so I welcome it.. :praying:
     
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    I think Hillary wants to be Sec of State.
     
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    I don't. It would be foolish for her to give up her cushy Senate seat in NY for a cabinet-level position, even if it is Secy. of State.
     
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    I dont know where people get the idea that Hillary Clinton is unelectable. There are millions and millions of Hillary supporters that feel disenfranchised who believe that the DNC selected Obama and are very bitter right now. They are threatening to stay home or vote for Mccain. Adding Hillary to the ticket may appease them. If Obama chooses a man for the VP, it will anger them even more. He must pick a women, but who? Hillary seems to be the only one who makes sense.
    Frankly, I hope that he doesnt pick Hillary because I dont want Obama as my president.
     
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    I think it is highly improbable that Obama will choose Clinton as a running mate. I believe she is holding out for her chance at the position again in 2012, because outwardly she supports Obama, but inwardly she expects him to lose and for her to be in line for the Democratic nomination in the next election.
     
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    I think you are dead on on this one.
     
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    No Way on HRC as VPOTUSA

    Obama doesn't need two women going through regular hormonal changes. First, and foremost, Michelle is reported to be totally against HRC in any position in her husbands Presidency.

    Secondly, HRC does not represent any for of change, or the ability to do things differently, which BHO has based his entire campaign on. She brings MORE of the same-old-thing, and way too much baggage from hers and Bill's 8 years in the White House.

    Third, well, there is no third; but, the first two reasons are good enough to rule our HRC as the VPOTUSA.

    P.S. Ladies please forgive me for the hormonal comment above. I was only trying to inject a little humor. But, the truth is, if things are as bad as the press reports, BHO doesn't need daily cat fights between the two women.

    I think BHO needs to get a black person to run with him, so if anything happened to him during his term, he'd assure America of a black person continuing on as POTUSA.
     
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    I think that Kansas Governor, Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas would be an excellent choice for Obama''s running mate.
     
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    He should pick Michelle... then he could be King and Queen of the US.
     
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    It would be a big mistake if he did.

    With Hill, you also get Bill.

    If Obama manages to get elected, can you imagine the problems a Bill Clinton running loose in the White House could cause?

    Talk about a recipe for disaster...
     
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    <edited LE>
    R.D., would you have the same attitude toward world women leaders of the past like : Queen Elizabeth, Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi or Golda Meir? Those women were made of exceptional stuff. If Jeane Kirkpatrick was running for President in the past, I would have supported her. You come off as too smug and dismissive.
     
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    Maybe he was referring to American women.
     
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    I have to agree with you on this one.. I think in the back of her mind she is getting ready for 2012.

    Jamie
     
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    RD2, you gotta get used to it. Make a comment about how Ann Coulter looks like a man, Sopranette remains silent. Make your comment, and your a bigot.

    Don't you love it ?

    I thought your comment was dead on. I have never seen anyone who looks as perpetually angry as Michelle Obama, and my feeling is she won't let HRC anywhere near her husband. As far as the hormones go, well, some words get people's self righteousness up quicker than others. That's something else you have to get used to.
     
  20. righteousdude2

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    Thanks for the Lemon-aide Brother Curtis

    I agree with you, and appreciate your comparison. You get one big AMEN!
     
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