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Will Senator Obama Choose Senator Clinton for VP????

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Aug 20, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    1. Senator Obama is sliding in the polls.

    2. Most of the undecided voters are supporters of Senator Clinton who haven't committed to a candidate yet.

    3. Picking Senator Clinton would be a huge "Wow!" factor.

    4. Senator Obama may not want her but practical political considerations(namely, winning the election) may carry the day.

    Also, since most of the undecided voters are pro-choice that may be why Senator McCain is considering choosing Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge.
     
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    If he's as smart as he's rumored to be, he won't go for Hillary.

    With Hill, he also gets Bill.
     
  3. KenH

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    The calculation my be that with Senator Clinton he gets the presidency. He may consider winning and getting President Clinton to be better than losing.
     
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    Could be, but it would be a big mistake. IMHO
     
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  6. KenH

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    Might be, carpro. Both of the major party candidates are dealing with difficult situations in choosing a running mate. Both candidates could end up picking a running mate who hurts his chances at winning.
     
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    I just don't see Governor Sebelius, 777, over Senator Clinton. I don't think he can pick a woman other than Senator Clinton.
     
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    I like Biden, but in reality it doesn't matter in the long run who Obama or McCain chooses. Usually after a week or two, very little is said about the Vice President during the remainder of the campaign. However, if Obama chooses Clinton or if McCain chooses Lieberman the interest might be greater.
     
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    Aren't there term limits on co-presidents? That would disqualify HRC wouldn't it?
     
  10. Baptist in Richmond

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    Great choice: Joe Biden (experience)
    Great choice: Sam Nunn (experience)
    Good choice: Tim Kaine (a great guy who has a promising future)
    Good choice: Hillary Clinton (unites the party)
    Good choice: Deval Patrick (another up-and-comer)
    Bad choice: Evan Bayh (part of the problem in the Democratic Party)


    Regardless of who Obama picks, we will undoubtedly get a third Bush term, so it really doesn't matter.

    Regards, KenH,
    BiR
     
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    Bush isn't running.
     
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    Considering all the "mysterious" entrances into eternity of the Clinton acquaintances, Big "O" would have to either feel bullet-proof or be quite lacking in judgment. Bad move IMHO!
     
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    I think that if Senator Obama picks Senator Clinton that he will win nationally by at least 10%.
     
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    I think this is key. The party still hasn't united behind Obama. There were some Hillary democrats that truly don't want Obama and I believe many of them won't turn out at the polls. This might also be why Obama is giving her the second night.
     
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    I think Clinton/Obama would be much stronger than Obama/Clinton, but it's not going to be Hillary, he's already handed over half the convention to her, and Geraldine Ferraro doesn't think she'll be the pick, nor does she want it.

    He's going to have to use that convention to unite, do things like tell his supporters not to boo Hillary.

    I think he really has made the choice:

    http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/obamas_vp_the_candidate_drops.html

    Complementary, independent, someone low-key- Nunn is out of the country all week, sounds like Biden to me.
     
  16. Baptist in Richmond

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    He doesn't have to run, PastorLarry.
    We will still get a third term.

    Haven't spoken with you in an long time, hope all is well with you and yours WAAAAAAY up there in the Michigan,
    BiR
     
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    Hey LeBuick,

    I would dare imagine that you are possibly right. By any chance, are you going to the convention?

    Regardless, I don't think Obama has any chance of winning, for two reasons:
    1. If McCain has Rove working for him, Obama has no chance.
    2. I don't think America is ready for an African-American POTUS....yet.

    But that is not such a bad thing, as the next POTUS will inherit the mess that the current POTUS has created.

    I hope all is well,
    BiR
     
  18. KenH

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    Yeah, Karl Rove really did well for the GOP in the 2006 election. :)
     
  19. Baptist in Richmond

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    Though I despise practically everything Rove represents, he is the Zen Master of politics. He makes Carrville and Begala look like schoolkids. If he does nothing else, he will still be remembered as the most successful "consultant" (for lack of a better word) of his time.

    As for the 2006 election, that was a direct result Howard Dean's strategy of fighting in every election, every district. If the Democratic Party were smart, they would let him guide the 2008 election as well....................but they aren't.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    Considering the swings the houses have taken historially, when a president serves two terms, retaining a minorty big enough to thwart a veto challenge is an accomplishment.
     
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