Featured Word Study, G5002, taktos

You have got to love them, folks. The topic is G5002, taktos, and Rippon seeks to justify choosing to translate it as "appointed" rather than set because other words, Hebrew words are also translated "appointed."

Do you think we could find where Kings "set" stuff?

Look up those same three verses in the NKJV, and voila, the King "set" stuff. So "set" is every bit as "royal" as appointed.

 

Hi Don, I am not the one who said the context changed, you are.

I discussed the context of our discussion, not the context of the verse. The context of the verse allows either word to be used, as demonstrated by the various translations using either word.

Since many translations use set, any argument from the context of scripture is bogus. My argument is based on our usage of the two English words, today, and we set days and dates for events.

Thus set is superior to appoint.

 

And Don, not to put too fine a point on it, you are still using context inaccurately.

Yes, I agree, you do not care about the context of our discussion.

And yes, your discussion is pointless, as you are finding fault with this word or that word, rather than addressing why "set" (the choice of the majority of translations) is not superior to "appointed."

We set a date for an appointment with a person, but we do not appoint a date for a set with a person.

One of the definitions of "set" is to fix or establish a date by agreement.

 

We set dates and days, we make appointments with people. We even set dates for an appointment.

Set, the choice of a majority of translations, is superior to appoint because "set" best conveys the idea.

 

Hi Don, the context is not changed by the message, the message is changed by the context.

Yes, that is the message of this thread, set is superior to appointed as a translation choice for "G5002, taktos." I made that point in the OP.

Until we do a study of a word, we do not know whether our understanding of the verse or verses where our word appears will be altered.

This Greek adjective, taktos, has tasso (an arrangement by mutual consent) as its root. But this word (taktos) describes a prearranged and agreed upon event, or an event established by the proper circumstance. Thus to “set” sail on the rising tide aptly illustrates the full meaning of the word. In order to set sail a whole bunch of things need to happen in an ordered and arranged way, starting with the Captain giving the order, and then deck hands doing all manner of things.

This word appears only once in scripture, in Acts 12:21 and is usually translated as a “set" day or an "appointed" day.

Here is our verse:

Acts 12:21, On an appointed day Herod, having put on his royal apparel, took his seat on the rostrum and began delivering an address to them.

Since it is far more common to set a date or day, rather than appoint one, this verse would be better rendered as “On a set day Herod….

 

Is any of the foregoing true? Nope. Did Rippon suggest I had made those statements? Yep.

Did I say set will "preach" better than appointed? Nope
Did I say the whole meaning of the verse is "obliterated" with the use of appointed? Nope
Did I say using "set" displays the full God intended meaning? Nope
Has Rippon seen the light that he should tell the truth? Judge for yourself.
Does offering a supposedly superior translation choice indicate the translators who made differing choices are inferior? Nope.

All these heaping tablespoons of "sarcasm" seem calculated to change the subject, disparage others, and belittle word study. You have got to love them, folks.

 

But Don, I have explained it several times. What did I say?

And Don, I did not suggest the use of appointed obliterated the message. For you to suggest I did is twaddle. Ditto for the other false charges.

We should seek to translate God's message as faithfully, accurately, transparently, and concordantly as possible. And I am suggesting you agree.

Why did I say set was superior to appoint? Because the majority of translations go with set? Nope.

Because in today's usage, we make appointments with people, and we set the day or date for those appointments? Yep.

So the use of set simplifies, clarifies, and communicates God's message. There is no need to go the long way around the barn.

Is this one translation choice a big deal? No. It is one of many examples where translations can be improved, simply by adopting the best choice found in other translations and in various lexicons which give differing shades of meanings.