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Worse than she could have imagined...

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by Bro. Curtis, Jun 1, 2007.

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  1. Bro. Curtis

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    http://www.nysun.com/article/55653?page_no=1


    ..."I was thinking, ‘You know, there's a legal argument here that no one is making, which is that the suicide bomber himself — 18 and under — is as much a victim as the Israeli civilians being killed,'" she said. "These kids are not doing this of their own accord."...

    ...Because reporters typically don't go to the Palestinian Arab territories alone, Ms. Goldstein and Mr. Leyland employed a "fixer" who introduced them to sources, translated, and served as a guide. After working on previous projects with the BBC and CNN, he took on the job eagerly but wishes to remain anonymous....

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    As the group walked through the town, they spoke to Palestinian Arab children in schools and on the street. "Our fixer was encouraging us to speak with the children. I think I'd always, deep down, had a hard time thinking the problem was really that bad. I thought maybe it was a lunatic fringe," she said.
    In fact, the fanaticism was worse than she ever imagined. "The most shocking thing was reconciling the normal appearance of these kids and what was coming out of their mouths," she said. "I was holding these beautiful children in my lap, and my translator was translating words of hate."
    The story was always the same. "No child ever said, ‘I don't want to be a martyr.' They talked about fame, paradise, virgins, and Ferris wheels [after death]. They were happy to tell me they hated Jews," she said.
    The children were more fanatical than their parents. "When we interviewed Hussam's family for the film, his parents were distraught. They don't believe in this whole child suicide bomber concept," Ms. Goldstein said. "Then I interviewed his sister, who was like, ‘I'm so proud of my brother. Hamas says he's a hero.' At one point she had a loser, dwarf, mentally handicapped brother. Now she's the coolest girl in class, and very proud."
    In addition to the children, Ms. Goldstein interviewed Mr. Zubeidah, commander of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Jenin. At the time, the Israel Defense Forces had made five attempts to assassinate him. In person, Mr. Zubeidah was not the harsh figure she had expected. "It was like talking to any other kid, about 27 years old," she said. "He was smiling. My translator told me, ‘He's talking about killing Jews.'"
    Ms. Goldstein didn't say she was Jewish, but she asked if she were on the streets of Tel Aviv, could she be murdered in a suicide attack? His response was chilling: "He said, ‘Indeed you could. Right here you are my friend. I'm protecting you. But when you are in Israeli territory, I'm no longer protecting you.'"
    Now 26, Ms. Goldstein, who finished law school in 2005, is setting up an international think tank of attorneys, psychiatrists, and policy makers to address the problem of recruiting children for terror. "It's a problem everyone should be concerned about," she said. "There are child suicide bombers now in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it's being orchestrated by adults."
     
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    Yes, it is worse than we imagine as I and others have been saying all along. But those of us who are realists are accused of painting with a "broad brush" or the B word. Well intentioned people refuse to wake up to reality. Especially Christians in the West. We want to think things cannot be as bad as they really are or worse. Denial plays tricks on our brains and our emotions because we are born/created with a fight or flight instinct and both must be suppressed in these perilous times, because the truth is hard for our Western minds to conceive or grasp. So instead, denial kicks in. If we fight, we are accused of not being Christ like. If we let flight take over, we are accused of not having enough faith and not trusing in the Lord. But one need only ask Christians in other countries who are suffering persecution, dismemberment, and death, who know first hand what these evil people are capable of doing - things that are inconceivable, things that cannot be posted here. Yet, we continue to have warnings from people, such as this journalist, about what is really going on and what is headed for non-muslims. I applaud her efforts for a think tank, but until people are willing to face the truth that the danger and the problem is that satanic religion of islam, nothing will change.
     
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    These children are being raised as little WMD's.
     
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    They are being sold the game of Jihad.
     
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  5. Ed Edwards

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    Recall that the first 10 years after Yisrael was made a country again
    that 700,000 Jews were kicked out of mostly Arab lands
    and sent to Yisrael.
    There were about 700,000 Palistani from the nation of
    Yisrael that were NOT accepted
    in Arab lands and became 'the Palistani problem'.

    Thus it was the Arab countries that created
    the 'the Palistani problem'. The same Arab countries
    that send fighters to Iraq to kill the Great Satan Americans.

    I note that probably a majority of foriegn fighters
    in Iraq are Palistani.

    Interesting how the Arab Yisraeli haters train terrorists
    in Palistine. If they knew the truth or accepted it,
    the children would find that they ARE BEING USED
    for political ends of countries that WON'T let them live
    in their countries.

    I had a Great Aunt who worked for Oral Roberts, the
    Great Faith Healer Prophet for Profit. She retired that
    ministry to go work in Yisrael at a home for orphan
    Palistini children. Being a Christian organization, they
    sure didn't teach "Kill a Jew for Allah" to children.
     
    #5 Ed Edwards, Jun 1, 2007
  6. windcatcher

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    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers...... I guess that includes idealogies.


    Warfare on our knees!
     
    #6 windcatcher, Jun 2, 2007
  7. hillclimber1

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    To me this is so correct.
     
    #7 hillclimber1, Jun 2, 2007
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    Golder Meier said it best -- and we need to remember:

    "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." -Golda Meir

    "When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons." -Golda Meir
     
    #8 Not_hard_to_find, Jun 2, 2007
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    #9 LadyEagle, Jun 2, 2007
  10. UnchartedSpirit

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    This might be a good time to show this youtube clip: http://tinyurl.com/ypjlo8

    I used to want my cartoon characters to be bigger than Mickey...nevermind that now!
     
    #10 UnchartedSpirit, Jun 3, 2007
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