Would Thomas Jefferson be for Universal health Care?

In my opinion, no, Thomas Jefferson would not be for nationalized health care.

 

Nor would TJ be in favor of a standing Army or a large Navy, nor income taxes, nor a lot of things we all take for granted.

 

Well, the Federalists took the necessary and proper clause and rand with it pretty well.

Jefferson was not in the US during the writing and ratification of the Constitution. He was our man in Paris.

 

If he changes with the times he might.

If he stays in his time he could just pay with chickens...

 

The constitution can and should be amended so that we stay current with the needs of the citizens. If we didn't change the constitution, blacks would still be slaves or second class citizens instead of running for president.

 

What article of the constitution does it violate? Just because Thomas Jefferson argued against this kind of support by the government doesn't have any bearing.

 

Since the thread is already off course, I'll throw this in: Thomas Jefferson was in favor of a "strong" Navy. In fact, it's because of him and fighting the muslim Barbary Pirates that we developed a strong navy.

As for universal health care, I would say not. Times may have changed but in a few years, the constitutionality of anything will be a moot point and a faded memory after we have assimilated into the New World Order.

 

Wrong question. The question should be "What part of the Constitution gives the Fed Govt the authority, power, etc., to do something, not "Hey let's do X" unless the Constitution forbids it...and even then, let's just do it anyway.

 

This is what I was responding to:


It can be. But UH is unconstitonal as it currently stands.

I asked why it is unconstitutional. Read the post before responding blindly.

 

Exactly. If a state wants to implement a state-wide collective health care system using state taxes, it has the Constitutional power to do so. Until I see a constitutional amendment, I do not see where the Constitution grants the federal government the power to manage a national health care system.

I also do not see where the federal government has the power to create national drug laws and intrude on the states methods of handling the issue. I do not see where the federal government has the power to create agencies like the IRS and the FDA that write their own regulations without congressional vote and enforce them.

Why is it that people think that the federal government has to regulate and manage everything?! It seems that our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and other amendments are clear that whatever powers the Constitution and its amendments do not delineate to the federal government, such powers belong to the states or people. So many people and politicians seem to forget (or ignore) that such a distinction exists in the supreme law of the land.

 

Unfortunately, Jefferson's idea of a strong navy (as opposed to NO army) would not have been possible but for the large ships commissioned by Adams. Jefferson's idea of ships were fast and small ships to keep it cheap. The Babary Pirate Wars were a tribute to American toughness and innovation.

 

You're right. I wish we had more of that toughness and innovation in today's leaders. But all the statesmen seem to have died decades ago. :tear: