Your view on abortion

[webdog]

Having been through exactly what you discribe, I can say without a doubt that to save the life of my wife was the right decision. Understand, I believe abortion for the sake of convienence is wrong. What I decided was not a sin, it was saving my wife.

It is real easy to make judgments and proclamations of right and wrong from the cheap seats. But sit in that Doctors office with me. Let it be your spouse that is going to die. If you truly put yourself in my place, I find it hard to beleve anyone would make a different decision.

I pray that folks are able to stay in those cheap seats and NEVER have to make the decision I did.

I'm sorry you had to go through that. That must have been a nightmare situation. As you said, it is easier for someone to condemn what you did not being in your shoes. Thank God you had the wisdom in that situation to save your wife. Praying for you and your wife...

 

[D28guy]

StandingFirm,

"Regardless, one cannot justify killing a child God has given."

And one cannot justify killing a mom that has been given, as you are advocating.


Mike

 

[webdog]

*if* my husband was in that spot i know he would say "do the best you can to save both" and pray for the best.

if he made the choice you say you would make, he wouldn't have a help meet or children when i got better. i would not live with a person who could commit/or give the ok to commit murder.:tear:

With that attitude, you should be thankful you have a husband at all. You should join SFIC's club of "classless posters"

 

[standingfirminChrist]

so now you claim to understand the will of God...why some live, and some die?

No one here but you would try and pull that claim off.

We don't understand why these terrible things happen. Not even you.

But it is the height of presumptuous to assume you can understand the depth of that situation.

It is the height of presumption to think one can justify sin such as abortion.

 

[webdog]

It is the height of presumption to think one can justify sin such as abortion.

...and standing by watching your wife die is not murder? You do realize you would go to prison for that most likely.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

...and standing by watching your wife die is not murder? You do realize you would go to prison for that most likely.

Wnen given the choice of one or the other, I will choose the child and I will stand by the truth that God said that child is a heritage from Him and His reward. I have no right to murder that child. If only one will survive, it would have to be that precious baby God has sent into the world.

 

[webdog]

Wnen given the choice of one or the other, I will choose the child and I will stand by the truth that God said that child is a heritage from Him and His reward. I have no right to murder that child. If only one will survive, it would have to be that precious baby God has sent into the world.

...then you are admitting you will murder your wife, making you a hypocrite...and a murderer in that situation.
I didn't realize you were a scientolgist now...

 

[D28guy]

StandingFirm,

"If only one will survive, it would have to be that precious baby God has sent into the world."

And the wife and mother is NOT precious?

Babies are precious (and they ARE of course), but mothers and wives are not?

Mothers and wives are "2nd class", and EXPENDABLE...so its OK to murder THEM???

It sounds like you believe in REVERSE abortion!!!

Mike

 

[Palatka51]

Must we split hairs here?

This is one of the times that I think that the woman has the final say in what to do. Seeing that those that know have posted that the mother will not survive the pregnancy and highly likely that the baby will die as well, it should be her word and hers alone as to what should be done.

If I,a man, were to go to a Dr to have a life threatening growth removed and I was conscience with mental judgment to make a decision to my medical health, I wouldn't want some else making that choice for me.

I would trust that my wife would make the right choice. With what ever that choice is I will have to live by it.

 

[webdog]

Must we split hairs here?

This is one of the times that I think that the woman has the final say in what to do. Seeing that those that know have posted that the mother will not survive the pregnancy and highly likely that the baby will die as well, it should be her word and hers alone as to what should be done.

If I,a man, were to go to a Dr to have a life threatening growth removed and I was conscience with mental judgment to make a decision to my medical health, I wouldn't want some else making that choice for me.

As the husbands, though, we are the head of home. I believe God has placed that decision for our families welfare on us. It is our responsibility to assure our family is taken care of.

 

[Palatka51]

As the husbands, though, we are the head of home. I believe God has placed that decision for our families welfare on us. It is our responsibility to assure our family is taken care of.

Agreed, however it is still the woman that has the life and death choice. I would let her make it and whatever her choice I would stand by her either way.

 

[webdog]

Agreed, however it is still the woman that has the life and death choice. I would let her make it and whatever her choice I would stand by her either way.

You would stand by why your child died AND your wife commits suicide?!?

 

[saved and sure]

What should be the difference between a secular argument on abortion and a believer’s argument on abortion?

The difference should be that believers go to God’s Word for the answer. God has the answer for what to do, doesn’t He?

Unless I missed it, after reading through 11 pages with over 109 posts not one verse of scripture has been used to support anyone person’s beliefs.

I find it interesting that when this issue comes up for discussion, the Word of God is not mentioned.

If a non believer comes to this site to look for answers on the subject of abortion they see the same argument a non believer uses. Opinions mean very little in light of God's Word on this matter.

Just my thoughts.

In Christ,
Dave

 

[Linda64]

94% of the abortions performed in the world today are for reasons other than the life of the mother being at risk. The vast majority of instances can be qualified under "A woman and/or her partner decide they do not want the baby they have conceived." This is an utmost evil. Even in the more difficult 6% of instances, abortion should never be the first option. The life of a human being in the womb is worth every effort to allow a full-term birthing process.

http://www.gotquestions.org/abortion-Bible.html

Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

 

[rbell]

Must we split hairs here?

This is one of the times that I think that the woman has the final say in what to do. Seeing that those that know have posted that the mother will not survive the pregnancy and highly likely that the baby will die as well, it should be her word and hers alone as to what should be done.

As you'll note what I said earlier...the man in my church had to make the decision for his wife, who was out of it.

 

[Palatka51]

You would stand by why your child died AND your wife commits suicide?!?

If my wife is given information that the child has no chance for survival I have every reason to believe that she would opt for the removal of the child. This is one of the few times that I believe that a woman must make that decision for her health.

Everyone on this board knows my passionate view regarding abortion. I count it as one of the most evil acts known to modern man. But in this case it would be her choice.

 

[rbell]

94% of the abortions performed in the world today are for reasons other than the life of the mother being at risk. The vast majority of instances can be qualified under "A woman and/or her partner decide they do not want the baby they have conceived." This is an utmost evil.

No arguments here.

Even in the more difficult 6% of instances, abortion should never be the first option. The life of a human being in the womb is worth every effort to allow a full-term birthing process.

I'm pretty much with you here, too...but there are those very rare cases as described earlier, where it is an absolute "one or the other" situation. I repeat: those are quite rare. But they do happen. And that is the one situation in which I would not fault someone for whatever choice they feel God would have them make....because it is a lose/lose situation, medically speaking.

 

[rbell]

What should be the difference between a secular argument on abortion and a believer’s argument on abortion?

The difference should be that believers go to God’s Word for the answer. God has the answer for what to do, doesn’t He?

Unless I missed it, after reading through 11 pages with over 109 posts not one verse of scripture has been used to support anyone person’s beliefs.

I find it interesting that when this issue comes up for discussion, the Word of God is not mentioned.

If a non believer comes to this site to look for answers on the subject of abortion they see the same argument a non believer uses. Opinions mean very little in light of God's Word on this matter.

Just my thoughts.

In Christ,
Dave

And......your post is one of the 109 to use no Scripture.

Just sayin'.

 

[webdog]

If my wife is given information that the child has no chance for survival I have every reason to believe that she would opt for the removal of the child. This is one of the few times that I believe that a woman must make that decision for her health.

...and what if she decides not to remove the child, meaning the child and your wife would both die? You would still leave her with that decision?

Why should this decision be your wife's to make? The Bible says that you become one flesh, and the decison to lead your home, including your wife falls on us.

 

[Palatka51]

As you'll note what I said earlier...the man in my church had to make the decision for his wife, who was out of it.

And if you'll note that I referred to the fact that the woman would be conscience and have mental awareness. If in the case the woman was not able to make that decision then it would be the husband's decision. If it were me I'd have to choose that my wife would live. If there is no hope for the child. However, if there were hope for the child I honestly do not know what my decision would be.