Your View On The Roman Catholics

Not all those who claim to be Baptists are born again either. The question is: Who or what are we putting our faith in for our salvation? If it ANYTHING or ANYONE other than Christ and His sacrifice for our sins, then it is FALSE.

 

This is no excuse. Everyone has God's word to read and understand. The Psalmist says "Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path". The Bereans received the message and examined scriptures to make sure what Paul said was true. When those "saved" Catholics stand before God, what will their excuse be when God asks them that "you had my Word, you couldn't figure out truth from error?".

 

Where is the love of Christ?

RevMitchell,

I found your posts at Catholic Answers Forum (CAF) (forums.catholic.com.)

I knew fignar/Teneas had invited anyone here to visit CAF. So, I was glad you visited. I was disappointed to see that you left so many posts, addressed to you by CAF members, unanswered. I hope you have time to go back and continue the discussion, when you are not there to "investigate."

I will tell, though, that if you decide to return to CAF to actually participate in discussions and debates, instead of "investigating"---name-calling and personal attacks will not be well received, there.

CAF has a very different climate from what you are accustomed to, here. At CAF, you must provide proof for any accusation-specific quotes, support for your beliefs and doctrines; and personal insults and character attacks are against forum rules.

As a result of my one day, on this Thread, at BaptistBoard.com; insults and accusations hurled at me reached an art form. You guys really have the insults down. Love and Christian charity? . . . .Not so much.

1. Liar, who should be ashamed, and run fast to confession and hope a priest can absolve my sin.
2. A RC in disguise.
3. Coming in here with a deceitful agenda, which is exhibited by my user name.
4. Immediately going to the catholic threads and began attacking those who oppose that heretical church.
5. Feigning offense and playing a victim.
6. Testing the Baptists to see how much they hate the Catholic church, then accusing them of making me leave the Baptist church and go to the Catholic church.
7. Basing theological decisions on a limited personal experience.
8. Having pretty weak faith.
9. A catholic and a dishonest one at that.
10. Now, back at Catholic.com trashing you to all my fellow Catholics.
11. Insisting that I was banned for being a Catholic, because you're "afraid of hearing the truth," When the truth is that the moderators were kind enough to allow me to stay even after admitting that I lied in order to circumvent BaptistBoard's membership requirements, and even though I told you in my last post that I was leaving of my own free will.
12. Now back at headquarters posting as "Teneas."
13. A Catholic with arguments right out of the Catholic playbook.
14. A Catholic troll.
15. Over there playing the martyr. (CAF)
16. Mentioned going to a Baptist church but then put in the qualifier "after fulfilling the obligation to attend mass."
17. Two people, teaming up according to posts on the Catholic forum.
18. Came here with an agenda--to push the false teachings of the RCC religion on us and to trash the truth of God's word.
19. Deceitful

(Quotes for the above in Part 2 & 3, in red type, with corresponding numbers.)

That was quite a day. For those of you, who actually answered the issues of my post on this Thread, I am sorry if I could not properly answer you. It is difficult to carrying on a discussion, when insults and accusations are coming one after another.

For those of you who went with insults, instead of answers, or insults and answers; I've gotta say, the insult and accusation techniques are quite impressive. I was trembling by the time I signed out. It was gut-wrenching. Sadly, the issues got lost in all the anger.

RevMitchell, in your Post 168, “Anyone Participate in a NonCatholic Forum?” at Catholic Answers Forum, CAF, (forums.catholic.com, http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=415240), you asked if “Anna Scott,” posted at BaptistBoard.com as "BaptistQuestioning." The answer to that question is yes.

You, RevMitchell, joined CAF; and wasted no time getting straight to your agenda, asking if "Anna Scott" was posting as BaptistQuestioning on BaptistBoard.com. It is actually against CAF Forum Rules to "solicit personal information, beyond that freely offered by members through inclusion in their public profiles."

See link: http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=270175

But, don't worry, I didn't report you to moderators. Hopefully, no one else did. The fact that I write under the pen name "Anna Scott," at CAF, is one of the few truthful statements made about me on this forum.

You may be very surprised to know that I told no one at CAF, not even fignar/Teneas, that I posted, here. I do not know if fignar noticed your question about me being BaptistQuestioning or not. Fignar/Teneas never questioned me about it—not on the forums at CAF, not by PM, not by e-mail, not by any means.

I am debating about whether or not to tell fignar; since my reason for posting, here, concerns my dilemma with the Baptist Church, not fignar's issues. Again, I didn't post on any of fignar's Threads, here. So, sorry to disappoint you: no conspiracy theory. My comments on this thread would be the same, regardless of whether or not fignar was here.

I am not obligated to tell you whether or not I post on other forums or whether or not I know any members here. Just as you are not obligated to state, upfront on your website, that Catholics are banned, and that their registrations are automatically rejected. Catholics have to figure that out by trial and error, as fignar did.

When fignar/Teneas posted at CAF, about his experiences here; I did want to come and provide help and moral support—as a Protestant friend, who believes Catholics are Christians---not as a person promoting the Catholic faith. I am not Catholic. I have no Catholic agenda. I heard about the treatment of Catholics, here. It sounded very unfair.

Catholics at CAF have been very kind to me. I have had some of the most profound theological discussions at CAF, with forum members representing a wide range of religions. Remember, I participate on the non-Catholic section at CAF.

Sadly, fignar/Teneas was asked to leave BaptistBoard.com, before my registration was accepted.

Teaming up? Please demonstrate how I teamed up with fignar, since we never posted on any of the same threads, here.

At first, I thought there was no point in posting, here, since fignar was leaving. As I thought about it, I realized that I would try one last time, to see if I could present questions and thoughts to my Baptist brethren without receiving attacks.

I, also, needed to know if the Baptists, on this forum, were really as anti-Catholic as I had heard. The way Baptists treat those outside the faith, will carry weight in whether or not I eventually have my name removed from the roles of the Baptist Church. If the love of Christ is not demonstrated by a church or a religious forum, why would I want to stay? Showing Christian love and charity does not mean giving up one's beliefs or compromising them in any way. It does involve respectful interactions with all people, while standing firm in one's beliefs.

After some time away from my Baptist brethren, I wondered how I would fit in? This may sound strange. I’ve been searching the Scriptures and studying and praying for a number of years. My studies all began one day, when I prayed to God asking him to reveal His truth to me, not man's truth about him. I read the Bible cover to cover, asking for guidance from the Holy Spirit; and began reading one book after another regarding the history of Judaism, Christianity and the transmission of Scriptures. Many of the authors I have read teach in Seminaries and Divinity Colleges. The more I study Scripture and history, the more I realize how much I do not know.

I was very surprised to find Scriptures that seemed in direct opposition to Baptist doctrines. I soon ran into problems at church. When I tried to ask about certain Scriptures, I found my questions were met with ridicule and attacks on my faith. Yet, there was little effort to explain the passages in question. I went to my church's facebook page and asked questions there, but no one ever responded. I e-mailed pastors--no response. Of course the church membership is in the thousands, so it can be impersonal.

I eventually found the Catholic Answers Forum and found they had a section for non-Catholics.

To my amazement, people were actually asking serious questions. Rich debates were easy to find, with people from many different denominations. I finally found a place where I could ask, disagree, and discuss without the constant fear of repercussions.

There are fierce debates and people with strong convictions, but most discussions are respectful. I discovered many people, well educated in Christian history. There are always the few, who are rude, but they usually receive reminders from forum members to discuss with charity. Those who continue with insults and angry responses usually end up banned.

I have witnessed the fallout from all sorts of situations with various leaders in my Baptist Church, involving lies, false pretenses, sex scandals, and a variety of deceptions. I met my "born-again Christian" husband at the Baptist Church. That marriage lasted only 3 years, and had all the makings of a "lifetime" movie.


Continued---Part 2 of 3 Next Post

 

Conclusion---Part 3 of 3

I commented on an existing question, on this existing thread, in response to points brought up by a Baptist forum member. I just happened to disagree; and because I disagreed, I received an onslaught of angry insults.

Is this the twilight zone or something? Isn't the title of this Thread, "Your View On The Roman Catholics"?

And you are telling me, "Don't ask about how the Baptists see the Catholic church"?

I participated on this thread and, again, the question is, "Your View On the Roman Catholics?" I was not allowed to answer this question with my comments? Is that what you are saying?

Remember I responded to 4 points brought up by AmyG:

Kind of hard to concentrate on the issues, with the onslaught of insults and false accusations. I'm not going towards Catholicism.

This has nothing to do with my post #138.

This has nothing to do with my post #138.

I was grilled on my salvation, which has nothing to do with this Thread. Does anyone here stay on topic?

How can you possibly find this "unbelievable." This was just the final blow, in years of encountering the same problems with Baptists. It is the overwhelming number of insults and false accusations hurled recklessly. How many of you bothered to verify the accusations? Blatant words of hatred, and blaming the "Catholic Church"/"Antichristian thing as the papacy" for the murder of 70million people.

Has anyone here read "On the Jews and Their Lies" by Martin Luther, quoted in Mein Kampf, by Hitler, to support genocide of the Jews? Stop. Please don't answer that. Not going to debate this--way off topic.

I wasn't offended by disagreement. I was offended by insults and false accusations and the "salvation trial"--which has nothing to do with the topic.

The topic here is not my salvation.

I commented on topic. I did not come here to push anything on anyone. I certainly would never trash the truth of God's Word.

I did not come here to defend Catholicism. Your comment on the Catholic view of heretics is not related to my post #138.

I just gave a response to the Thread question and Amy.G.

I'm sure the fact that you have banned Catholics from this website might be the reason, you hardly see Catholics here, and why you doesn't normally see "full posts." I know this is a private website and you make the rules. I'm not complaining.

Your website. Your rules. No problem with that.

Well, guys, this really is my last post. I hope you will consider these three posts, especially the 19 points on page one, at least one moment before you resume your next round of attacks on my character. After a brief pause. Have at it. Do your worst. I won't be around to defend myself. So, enjoy and God bless.

No hard feelings. I pray the Love of Christ will deliver us all from anger, prejudice, and hatred.

In Christ,
Anna

Sorry--this is out of order. 2 of 3 is next post.

 

Setting the record straight

Continued---Part 2 of 3

I know these things can happen in any church; but the number of incidents, even in my smaller circle within the church, was really stunning. I kept meeting angry Baptists and angry Evangelicals. I began to wonder, where is the love of Christ?

Then I encountered more angry Baptists on Internet forums. So, I'd go back to CAF. There were angry people there, too, but many even tempered people, also, to balance things out.

I came here and found more angry Baptists. One can truly reach the last straw, as the result of an internet forum. Keep in mind, there are years of pain behind this brief sketch I gave concerning my experiences with the Baptist Church.

I'm not leaving this site, because you disagree with me. I may have a different set of responses to the same questions, as my study of Scripture continues. It's the insults, false accusations, and the anger that can hurt the witness and drive people away. Somehow, we've all got to get back to the love of Christ.

I clearly stated my religious standing in my first post:

RevMitchell, webdog said you were doing investigation at over there (CAF.)

The problem is, you didn't really investigate enough to put together the whole truth. Webdog's report that I was "playing martyr," at CAF is untrue. I never told anyone at CAF that I posted, here.

Please cite the post at CAF, showing that I played the Martyr, or that says I revealed to CAF that I started posting, here.

When you were there "investigating," didn't you find it odd that I never spoke of actually posting, here?

RevMithcell; I must ask, after visiting CAF, why didn't you come back here and tell people that I am not Catholic? Why do you let this false accusation stand? Anyone, who visits CAF, will see that I am not Catholic.

And yes, I went back to CAF, but I post on the Non-Catholic Threads, there--since I am not Catholic. That is a rather important detail, don't you think? Fignar posted on this Baptist website, but that doesn't make him Baptist, does it?

What deceitful agenda. Who did I attack? I only gave comments. I'm the one being attacked. See part 1 of 3.

Where is your support for this my "deceitful agenda"? Again, I'm not Catholic. Here is one quote, where I allegedly "trashed all of you."

"Maybe it is the latter that Baptists fear": is this the big "trashing" episode?

Is there another quote at CAF that demonstrates "trashing you?" If so, you have my permission to quote me, here. Then, we can compare lists. See Part 1 of 3.

I was never banned. The moderators know this.

I did decide to leave of my own free will. Though, after I thought about it for a few days, and got my emotions under control; I decided to set the record straight.

This conversation about supposedly "admitting to moderators that I lied in order to circumvent BaptistBoard's membership requirements," never took place. It is a fabrication, and the moderators know that.

I'm not a RC.

Again, I'm not Catholic. I am not Teneas (that is fignar). I don't have the slightest idea what a "Catholic playbook" is--never heard of it.

Does this "someone mentioned going to a Baptist church but then put in the qualifier "after fulfilling the obligation to attend mass," apply to me? Where on earth did this come from? I have no idea what you are talking about here. Please cite your source.

What agenda, specifically? What, exactly, did we get caught doing?

What lies did I tell? Please provide specific quotes.

Please refer to the long list of false accusations against me outlined in Part 1 of 3 and tell me who is bearing false witness, here.

How many of those accusations is actually true? Don't accuse someone of something you cannot prove or support. Otherwise, it's just supposition, gossip and slander.

Teneas and Anna Scott are not the same.
Teneas and fignar are the same.
Anna Scott and BaptistQuestioning are the same (as noted in Part 1 of 3.)
And this is a problem, because?????

What lie did I tell? Please provide a quote. I am not Catholic and I have no priest to run to for confession.

Continued-Part 3 of 3

 

Good luck with all of that.

 

I think Catholics should understand that there can be no fruitful discussions between themselves and Bible believers of any denomination because while they say they also read and believe the Bible the fact is that they do not take it as the sole authority in matters of faith and practice.

 

Baptistquestioning, as your handle even accuses you of, you are NOT a baptist, but a liar at that...and you want sympathy for that? You have the nerve to play the martyr here particularly after the many lies you have spread over at your board! You are clearly a troll.

 

BaptistQuestioning,

I haven't been a part of this thread and only looked into it this morning. I would be happy to discuss your questions (I have only seen the last few posts). I started to send you a PM, but you apparently have them turned off. Let me know how to contact you (PM, email, Facebook) and I will try to address whatever you want to find. I am not all-knowing, but I can at least be civil and courteous.

Not all Baptists are rude and mean. Even those perceived to be like that here are not like that in real life. RCC is a touchy subject in these parts.

Anyway, let me know.

 

More like a trouble maker looking to create problems where none exist. This is just a forum. If one does not like what goes on here don't come. Playing the martyr will not change what one does not like. Any adult knows this.

 

Only God get's to say "who's in " and "who's out".

 

And he explained it in His word. It is knowable.