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7 Things Christians are giving up by not Supporting Trump

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Calminian

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1) The “Sanctity of Marriage.”

Only the president of the United States can have any impact in this issue, and only Trump will appoint conservative pro-constitution Justices. If don't support Trump, and allow Hillary to appoint 5 Supreme Court justices over the next 4-8 years, you won't even recognize modern marriage. It will be anything goes.

2) The Bible as moral authority.

Hillary Clinton hates Christians. She is doing everything she can to flood the country with muslims who find the Bible offensive. Trump, on the other hand, is very fond of Christians and is surrounding himself with them. His Supreme Court Justice picks are all pro-Christian values and Mike Pence is a good example of the Christians he brings close to him.

3) America as a Christian Nation.

This you can kiss goodbye with Hillary as the next president. Obama has already made the claim that "We are not longer a Christian nation." Hillary is even more radical in this regard.

4) The idea of protecting women.

Hillary has enabled and protected a sexual predator for many decades. He raped and assaulted women continually as even today new testimony is coming out. She doesn't care about anyone, including woman who don't align with her goals. She especially hates Christians women. She is also staunchly pro-Islam which is the most abusive environment for woman possible. Only Trump wants to fight the Islamic war against woman worldwide.

5) Claiming to be pro-life.

This also is a Supreme Court Issue. If you don't vote for Trump you are voting for abortion. Many Christians on this board are pro-aboriton (don't let them fool you), but true Biblical Christians abhor it. Only Trump's Supreme Court picks can help the unborn, in fact with Trump, the Supreme Court could be the most conservative it's been since before Roe v. Wade. With Hillary we'll have the most anti-life court we've had in our nations's history.

6) Any talk of “Family Values”.

Everything we hold dear is gone if Hillary is elected. He will appoint justices that aren't just antagonistic toward Christianity, but absolutely hostile toward it. Everything from marriage to spanking rights will be perverted and dismantled under 4-8 years of Hillary appointing Supreme Court Justices.

7) Policing anyone for sinful behavior.

Just look at the policing of Hillary's behavior going on now under the current DOJ. She deserves to be in jail many times over for selling our secrets and selling State Department access to foreign entities. This is in addition to mishandling classified information on her private email server. Yet she's running for president under Obama's protection. If Hillary is elected, only Christians will be policed and persecuted. You saw them being targeted by the IRS recently. Under Hillary this will continue and increase. Criminals like Hillary will be pardoned, and Christians and conservatives targeted.
 

Yeshua1

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Probably the most non sequitur filled post in the history of this board.

The truth is that a Christian must choose either the Donald or Hilliary to vote for, and think that he would be the betetr of the two to vote for...
 

Calminian

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The truth is that a Christian must choose either the Donald or Hilliary to vote for, and think that he would be the betetr of the two to vote for...

I think that's the understatement of the century. Trump and his Supreme Court picks will be better for the county and the Church than any republican president in 20 years. Supreme Court is everything, and Trump will certainly appoint better than GHW Bush.
 

Calminian

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No that is not the truth.

Of course it's true. If you don't support Trump you are supporting Hillary and by extension, abortion and every other evil a liberal court will approve. At this point, it's no contest. If you abstain from voting you are not trusting God, you are testing God. You are throwing yourself off a cliff asking God to save you.
 

Revmitchell

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Of course it's true. If you don't support Trump you are supporting Hillary and by extension, abortion and every other evil a liberal court will approve.

Uh no I'm not. The only thing I could do to support Hillary is actually cast a vote for her. Other than that my support goes directly to the person I vote for. I am not responsible for all the other idiotic people voting for immoral politicians. That is between them and God but it in no way compels me to do the same.
 

Calminian

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Uh no I'm not. The only thing I could do to support Hillary is actually cast a vote for her. .....

This is both wrong and foolish. The Bible says "for him who knows to do good but does not do it, to him is sin." There is a sin of omission. If you allow the evil of abortion to take place by sitting on your hands, that's on you. It's akin to waking past an injured man singing "It's not my problem. I didn't do that to him."
 

Revmitchell

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This is both wrong and foolish. The Bible says "for him who knows to do good but does not do it, to him is sin." There is a sin of omission. If you allow the evil of abortion to take place by sitting on your hands, that's on you. It's akin to waking past an injured man singing "It's not my problem. I didn't do that to him."

I am on the board of directors for a local pregnancy care center. What do you do about abortion issues yourself other than berrate those who will not vote for a man with the morals of an alley cat.
 

Calminian

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I am on the board of directors for a local pregnancy care center. What do you do about abortion issues yourself other than berrate those who will not vote for a man with the morals of an alley cat.

I've adopted 4 kids for one. And my wife volunteers at our local pregnancy center. We're not phonies, we're the real deal. We believe abortion is a sin and is indeed murder.

And yes, I do berate foolish voting decisions that are harmful and end in death. You are blowing up your only chance and saving the unborn who you say you really care about. I say you hate Trump more than you love the unborn. If you support Hillary this election cycle, you should be fired from that board. I wouldn't support you.
 

Yeshua1

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I am on the board of directors for a local pregnancy care center. What do you do about abortion issues yourself other than berrate those who will not vote for a man with the morals of an alley cat.

An American has the duty to vote though, and in this Election, do you really want to see someone whose agenda and plocies will be far worse for America, especially Christians, than his will be ?
 

Revmitchell

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I've adopted 4 kids for one.

And my wife volunteers at our local pregnancy center. We're not phonies, we're the real deal. We believe abortion is a sin and is indeed murder.

And yes, I do berate foolish voting decisions that are harmful and end in death. You are blowing up your only chance and saving the unborn who you say you really care about. I say you hate Trump more than you love the unborn. If you support Hillary this election cycle, you should be fired from that board.

1. I don't support Hillary.
2. You can say I hate anyone you want. You do not know me and you have no credibility so go on talk and be slanderous all you want. At this point your posts resemble nothing more than a troll.
 

Revmitchell

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An American has the duty to vote though, and in this Election, do you really want to see someone whose agenda and plocies will be far worse for America, especially Christians, than his will be ?

I cannot vote for an immoral candidate and then stand in the pulpit and preach on holiness. I will rely on God for my joy, and my peace and that allows me to pick more carefully who I will vote for without compromising biblical values.
 

Calminian

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An American has the duty to vote though, and in this Election, do you really want to see someone whose agenda and plocies will be far worse for America, especially Christians, than his will be ?

The irony is, his agenda may actually be better than any before him. That's why I supported him in the primaries. He was speaking up for righteousness better than any of his "christian" opponents. I didn't like his past, but I loved his evolution and direction. I look for direction, not perfection.

None of the other candidates, who sported all kinds of Christian Titles, ever proposed anything remotely as righteous as the things Trump was proposing. It got me thinking. Look at the evils of King David. Look at the evils of Paul. Are Trump's sins worse than theirs?? Did God give up on them?

I think the Church is going to owe him a huge apology in 8 years. I think he's going to govern more righteously than any before him (at least more than in the last 20 years).
 

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1. I don't support Hillary.
2. You can say I hate anyone you want. You do not know me and you have no credibility so go on talk and be slanderous all you want. At this point your posts resemble nothing more than a troll.

You're the one beating your chest about how much you've contributed to the pro-life cause. You just tried to belittle me thinking you had done more. And now, because of Trump's past you refuse to help him fight for the pro-life cause. You are turning your back on those you can help. That's pride, my friend. You're trowing away their only hope.

If it was your life on the line, or your own family's, you wouldn't be so brave. Rosie being called a pig is not big enough to turn by back on the innocent. I refused to be brave with other people's lives. I vote Trump and his pro-life justices proudly.
 

Revmitchell

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You're the one beating your chest about how much you've contributed to the pro-life cause. You just tried to belittle me thinking you had done more.

I did none of that.

And now, because of Trump's past you refuse to help him fight for the pro-life cause.

First, I don't know that it is his past. There is no evidence by him that he is repentant. Second, We have no evidence that he will fight for por life causes. We have a lot of rhetoric but we really do not know.

You are turning your back on those you can help. That's pride, my friend. You're trowing away their only hope.

Again, you do not know me or my motivation. You care quick to accuse and short on listening and reason.

Going back to the op it is full of non sequiturs. One being true (i.e. not voting for Trump) does not mean automatically that the latter is true (i.e. you support hillary). These are childish claims, evil accusations, and really sophomoirc at best.
 

Yeshua1

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The nastiness between Christians this election has just reached unreal levels.

Mainly due though to those Christians who see themselves as OK with voting for someone whose policies/agenda would just be the same as last 8 years has been...

We are close to the tipping point, where God just allows us to go the way of Rome and fall apart due to us mocking God and refusing his ways!
 

Calminian

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I did none of that.

Of course you did. "I serve on the board for a pregnancy center. What do you do??" That is chest beating.

First, I don't know that it is his past. There is no evidence by him that he is repentant. Second, We have no evidence that he will fight for por life causes. We have a lot of rhetoric but we really do not know.

Unforgiveness is the fruit of self-righteousness. Trump has publicly apologized for the crude statements caught on tape, and he has put out a list of Supreme Court justices that are praised by all pro-life groups.

The irony is, I have more evidence of Trump's moving in the right direction than I do for you. You are publicly admitting you're going to help Hillary Clinton by abstaining from voting for the pro-life candidate. That shows me you are on the wrong path.
 
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Revmitchell

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Of course you did. "I serve on the board for a pregnancy center. What do you do??" That is chest beating.

Actually it was in response to your false accusation that I allow abortion to take place. A perfectly reasonable response to a perfectly ungodly accusation.



Unforgiveness is the fruit of self-righteousness. Trump has publicly apologized for the crude statements caught on tape, and he has put out a list of Supreme Court justices that are praised by all pro-life groups
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I am sorry that you are so unimformed. Trump also has built casino's which include strip clubs. It was only until this year that he was no longer profiting from them. That was only the result of filing for bankruptcy. His name remains on one of them. As if casino's and strip clubs were enough you need to also know that strip clubs are almost always part of human sex trafficking. Trump may not have been directly part of the trafficking but he certainly took part in that over all industry.

Trump bragged in his book "The Art of the Deal" that he slept with married women while he was married. He has had multiple sordid affairs resulting in multiple divorces. The recent revelations of his language are only a very small apart of the over all picture of his very gross lifestyle.

This portion of your post that contains a false accusation is deleted and has been reported.
 
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