"God hath endued the will of man with that natural liberty and power of acting upon choice, that it is neither forced, nor by any necessity of nature determined to do good or evil."

One of the verses cited to support the assertion is Deuteronomy 30:19 which says God sets before us the choice of life or death. This is contrary to the doctrine of Total Spiritual Inability, which says we will only choose death.

Now this choice was set before us after the Fall, and therefore our being...

In Genesis 3 we read about Eve eating of the fruit --- and then giving it to her husband.
Suppose, Adam refuse to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil?

What would have happened?
Would Eve have been kicked out the Garden?
Would Adam have been allowed to stay?

Open for discussion

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A C vs A DISCUSSION!!!

During the past year I came across some people on Facebook who advocate that Old Testament saints were not justified before Christ finished His work on the cross. It was hard to try to pin them down but the implication of what they were teaching was that Old Testament saints were placed in what I would describe as a "holding cell" for hundreds, even thousands of years, until Christ finished His work on the cross.

Is there anyone here who advocates such a thing or would like to try to defend...

Some view that people who gained approval through faith under the Old Covenant, were fully justified by the "promised" blood of Christ. Their faith "looked forward" to Christ. In order for the [snip] doctrine advocates to force their [doctrine] doctrines into scripture they must resort to redefining words (i.e. draw always means compel rather than attract by lovingkindness.) They [misinterpret] scripture, Matthew 23:13 does not really say that men who were entering the kingdom were blocked....

Generally we as Christians hold some certain beliefs, when questioned or opposed we dig in and cannot here the other view.

Acts of the Apostles 13:48 (NASB)

When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of [fn]the Lord; and all who had been appointed to eternal life believed.

The Greek word translated "appointed" in the OP version of the verse, refers to an agreement by mutual consent. Since another Greek word (also translated as "appointed" refers to a unilateral assignment, some claim it was God who had "appointed" them unilaterally. Utter nonsense.

They had received direction...

Most likely this truth will not settle the Arminian Calvinist divide.

In either case, the notion belief precedes regeneration or regeneration precedes belief, hearing the word of God precedes in both views.

Hebrews 4:12, ". . . For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. . . ."

[ John 17:17, Romans 10:17. ]

from: https://www.grace-ebooks.com/library/C. D. Cole/CDC_Bible Doctrine of Election The.pdf

7. The Elect are manifested in Repentance and Faith and Good works.

These graces, being God-wrought in man,
are not the cause but the evidences of Election.

I Thess. 1:3-10;

II Peter 1:5-10;

Phil. 2:12,13;

A question to ask yourselves is "Does God credit the faith of some humans as righteous faith?" See Romans 4:4-5 and Romans 4:23-25.

The answer of course is yes.

How about does God ask fallen individuals to put their faith in Christ?

The answer of course is yes.

Does John 3:16 indicate everyone whose faith is credited as righteous faith will not perish?

The answer of course is yes.

He who endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22.

Salvation, the joyful sound! But, before the sun of righteousness arose upon us and displayed the glory of his finished salvation to our hearts, alas ! what dark, proud, ignorant notions of salvation did we entertain? Instead of seeing righteousness as a gift by Jesus Christ, and justification of life coming by free gift, and eternal life the gift of God through Jesus Christ....Romans 5:17-18, Romans 6:23.....we vainly thought that...