No they do not, everything they do centers around abortion. And no I would not want my husband to praise them for any reason, not could I ever see him doing so.
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Yes, in contrived hypothetical situations!
I dont think God leads us to vote or not to vote. When Paul spoke of eating and drinking food sacrificed to idols, he said we were free. BUT he never said the differing consciences of either side were led by God to their conclusions. Each concentrated on pleasing God, but ended up taking different views. Paul encouraged each to be faithful. You wouldn't have made a good Paul
. And yes, several times this choice has been presented as a vote against (disregarding the "for"), and as choosing the lesser of two evils. I do not think Trumps platform evil, so he has my vote. But the argument has been made in this forum to the contrary and I think you know it.
I had a conversation with my wife the night before last reinforcing your sentiments about Mrs Clinton & agreeing with you. She then starts a dialog on line with a group of women (Women in Pantsuits) .....obviously a "Hillery Love Group" and they ripped me to pieces & called me a Male Pig & finally telling my wife to divorce me for my belief that they consider sexiest.
Now you know, I consider both Trump & Clinton both very flawed individuals, so I'm not voting for either.....my better angels will not allow it. Hopefully Trump wins and then gets impeached. At least Pense is somewhat & competent......But having hitched his wagon to Donald is scary also.
You might want to tell that to several "NeverTrumpers" on this forum who insist no true Christian could vote for Trump because that would violate God's will.
Jon......You consider Trump sane then?I dont think God leads us to vote or not to vote. When Paul spoke of eating and drinking food sacrificed to idols, he said we were free. BUT he never said the differing consciences of either side were led by God to their conclusions. Each concentrated on pleasing God, but ended up taking different views. Paul encouraged each to be faithful. You wouldn't have made a good Paul
And yes, several times this choice has been presented as a vote against (disregarding the "for"), and as choosing the lesser of two evils. I do not think Trumps platform evil, so he has my vote. But the argument has been made in this forum to the contrary and I think you know it.
anemia testing
cholesterol screening
diabetes screening
physical exams, including for employment and sports
flu vaccines
help with quitting smoking
high blood pressure screening
tetanus vaccines
thyroid screening
See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/general-health-care#sthash.l8RfnKM1.dpuf
Just like those who support Trump, that is a matter between them and God. I supported the platform before Trump was chosen to represent it, so I don't really care what they think of my vote. All I need to tell them is not to worry about my vote, they are responsible for their own. And if they choose to abstain, I respect that decision.You might want to tell that to several "NeverTrumpers" on this forum who insist no true Christian could vote for Trump because that would violate God's will.
Yes. I think he is arrogant and narcissistic (which has served him well in business), but sane.
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The only way you haven't compromised anything is if you're one of those folks who don't share the Gospel anyway.
Given how they lie about mamograms and cancer screening you'll forgive me if I don't view them as a credible witness. They are in the business of killing babies and to see Christians now defend then shows how bad things are. They do not do good, and they are worthy of no praise.
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Ah, wonderful. Your support of Donald Trump now has you defending Planned Parenthood. I hope it washes off...
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Tell me if New Hope Ministries ( pro-life group in Syracuse, NY) is wrong in this situation?
They are located physically next door to Planned Parenthood. They maintain a close relationship with PP. You see, NHM has a machine that PP does not. Therefore, often PP will send a client next door to NHM for use of the machine.
Tell me if New Hope Ministries ( pro-life group in Syracuse, NY) is wrong in this situation?
They are located physically next door to Planned Parenthood. They maintain a close relationship with PP. You see, NHM has a machine that PP does not. Therefore, often PP will send a client next door to NHM for use of the machine.
Telling the truth. The untrue statement was made that all of PP's activities are abortion related.
I abhor PP, but am also rational and informed enough to know that it provides health services not related to abortion.
And I don't view you as a credible witness. But if you call the PP office nearest you and ask about any of the listed services they will give you the location of the PP office nearest you that offers that service.
It shows how bad things are when those who claim the Name of Christ make a false accusation against a Christian brother and Elder in violation of the word of God.
So, you think:
anemia testing
cholesterol screening
diabetes screening
physical exams, including for employment and sports
flu vaccines
help with quitting smoking
high blood pressure screening
tetanus vaccines
thyroid screening
are all bad, wrong, immoral, and should be banned?
Reminds me of the movie Roots.
A white man was dying - a Black doctor came to help. The white man demanded the Black dr be turned away because of his race.
I'm just curious - ask you husband if he rather you die on the PP sidewalk - or if he would want a PP dr to save your life.
I don't care what you think about me. I am well aware of what being a #nevertrumper means on this board which is all the more reason to take that stand.
I do not care what the nearest PP does beyond abortion because their is no cover for killing babies.
They do no good. No one that murders babies can claim good. And actually no one period can claim good. I do no good, my husband does no good. Only Christ is good, and He works good through us. To say that a secular organization dedicated to killing babies does good and is worthy of praise is wrong.
Now please quote where I said any of the above procedures are immoral and should be banned.
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Don't need to ask, he would want my life saved. He would thank the Dr for his help and give praise where it is due, to God alone for my life.
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