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Divorce before conversion able to marry

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1689Dave

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You keep using this verse and willingly sin. What sin did you unwillingly commit? Who twisted your arm behind your back and forced you to sin?
Do you have impure thoughts? Are you ever angry? Jesus compares it to murder. A lustful glance = adultery according to Jesus. Are these willful or something in our nature we combat in the power of the Holy Spirit?
 

1689Dave

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Exactly. David had him murdered instead of manning up and tell him he got his wife prego while he was in battle.

David can be forgiven of that(murder), but ppl today can not be forgiven of adultery.

I guess ppl need to murder their spouse to meet your righteous demands.
It's a no win situation. But Christians will not be in this situation, or if they are, they won't remain. “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3:9)
 

1689Dave

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Only if caught in the act and on the testimony of two or three reliable (impartial) witnesses. Uriah could have divorced his pregnant wife since her infidelity would be obvious, but since there were no witnesses, she could not have been put to death.
It doesn't matter. Divorce is not a New Covenant provision. No more than abortion ar any other laws God does not sanction.
 

SovereignGrace

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Jesus said it, not me. “And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.” (Mark 10:11–12)

Matthew 19:9 adds ‘except for immorality’.
 

SovereignGrace

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It's a no win situation. But Christians will not be in this situation, or if they are, they won't remain. “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3:9)
Are you sinless now?
 

SovereignGrace

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Do you have impure thoughts? Are you ever angry? Jesus compares it to murder. A lustful glance = adultery according to Jesus. Are these willful or something in our nature we combat in the power of the Holy Spirit?
I have thoughts I will never let anyone know about.
 

SovereignGrace

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Your issue is with Hebrews, not with me.

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,[/][Hebrews 10:26 NASB]

What this verse is addressing is not a one time willful sin, but a life that is devoid of repentance. If one keeps on sinning without any sign of repentance, IOW.
 

1689Dave

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Again, what sins have you committed that you were forced/coerced to commit?
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,” (Hebrews 10:26)

It works like this. God says do not do this certain thing, and you do it, you are not atoned for but have the mindset of the reprobate.
 

SovereignGrace

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“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,” (Hebrews 10:26)

It works like this. God say do not do this certain thing, and you do it, you are not atoned for but have the mindset of the reprobate.
Again, who put a gun to your back, twisted your arm behind you, and made you sin? You’re not answering my question. And I know why.
 

1689Dave

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For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,[/][Hebrews 10:26 NASB]

What this verse is addressing is not a one time willful sin, but a life that is devoid of repentance. If one keeps on sinning without any sign of repentance, IOW.
But living in adultery is OK?
 

SovereignGrace

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“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,” (Hebrews 10:26)

It works like this. God says do not do this certain thing, and you do it, you are not atoned for but have the mindset of the reprobate.


the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.[1 John 3:8-10]

You quoted this passage from 1 John 3. Again, the context is not that Christians won’t sin, because they do and will. Rather, it means they won’t live lives in rebellion towards God, but will repent of the sins they (willfully) commit.
 

SovereignGrace

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But living in adultery is OK?
I never said it was.

However, a lost man who divorces and remarries before being saved, when they’re saved, that’s forgiven, blotted out by the blood of the Lamb. But you expect them to leave their spouse or remain with her?
 
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