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The Bible war.

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by 37818, Oct 25, 2018.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    KJVO state that it is...
     
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    That does not mean that it is the correct wording though...
     
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    eramus also took certain things from the Vulgate latin into His greek text, and your knowledge here indeed shows that His completed TR was not a fully 100 % free of any reconstruction or conjecture, and the Kjv itself based off of that did not follow his text 100 % of the time!
     
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    So which Greek text would be the right one for KJVO to be correct?
     
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    That is the problem with some, if not all, who hold KJVO view point.
     
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    Overall the KJV is still better than the modern translations. There are the well known points of disagreement. Some obscure.
     
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    There are instances where Nas is to be preferred though!
     
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    So your answer is NO, you can't?
     
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    Why?
     
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    Yes. Revelation 15:3. But then it has the same reading as the NWT in John 1:18. The difference being a capitalized "G" in English.
     
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    The reading follows the f35 text more often than other modern translations.
     
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    Is that the best text to use?
     
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    And why is it important that the KJV text follows the F35 reading? The KJV translators didn't have F35 in 1604-1611 while the KJV translation was being done. And F35 dates to around 1100 AD. Shouldn't that 1000 year gap cause us concern?
     
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    The so called experts can, as that article made a clear case that the Majority text was not known in the church until 4 th century, as the first 300 years would ahve been very close to the so called Critical text!
     
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    Where it would be in agreement with the original. Now what needs to be understood on a case by case is why a particular reading should be understood to be most likely the original as opposed to not be.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    I was just stating what that article was saying in regards to what the early Church had for their text!
     
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    Is that like when the translators of the modern versions use an ekelectic text?
     
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    What is now known as the Majority text was the minority text for the fist several centuries. It wasn't until after the 9th century that the Byzantine text became the dominant, or Majority text
     
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    What is the evidence?
     
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