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We did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes...

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by BenWest, Oct 8, 2019.

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  1. church mouse guy

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    Sorry, you got it wrong.
     
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    I don't have any stars in me--I am from Adam who was made from dust. Maybe you are from another galaxy?
     
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    Not so, since Genesis 2:4 shows that other HeavenS (plural) were made on the 3rd Day by Jesus.

    Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day (3rd Day-Gen 1:9-10) that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

    Looks like someone doesn't know the difference between God the invisible Spirit and God the Son. Tell us your idea of what the THIRD Heaven of ll Corinthians 12:2 is.
     
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    Nope. I am from the 2nd Heaven made on the SAME Day that Adam's first Earth was made by Jesus/Lord God according to Genesis 2:4. He also made the 3rd Heaven which you have yet to explain. Amen?
     
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    Tell you what, why don't you view this short video by Dr. Terry Mortenson wherein he explains the position of Biblical creation. The sun was made the next day after the plants. That is one reason that we know that the days are 24 hours because the plants would have been dead if they had to wait millions and millions of years for sunshine.

     
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    No, they WEREN'T. Their skeletal remains prove that. Most species were quite-different from homo sapiens. Gorillas are skeletally nearer to homo sapiens than several species of cavemen were. (Who said they lived in caves, anyway? Several species sheltered in caves, but don't appeared to have lived in them all the time.)

    And the various caveman species were much-more-diverse from one another than the races of homo sapiens are today.
     
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    Well, Neanderthals have been proven to be fully human so exactly who are you talking about?
     
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    Sure, but he's wrong about the Light of the first day. It's Jesus....because He MUST have the preeminence or first place in ALL things.

    Col 1:18 And He is the head of the body, the church: Who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things He might have the preeminence. (Greek-first place)

    Jesus IS the Light of the first Day, blinded Saul on the road to Damascus with His brightness, AND is also the literal physical Light of Heaven. Rev 21:23 Those who teach otherwise are easily refuted (proven wrong Scripturally). Want more Scripture?


    False, since we STILL live on the present 6th Day/Age in the Creation of the perfect Heaven. This Day will NOT end until Humans have dominion or rule over mosquitoes, viruses and Angels as Genesis 1:28 states and 1Co 6:3 confirms ALSO, every living creature MUST become vegetarian as Genesis 1:30 plainly states and Isaiah 11:7 details that this prophecy includes Lions and Bears. THEN, and only then will the perfect God say, It is very good/perfect, because it won't be perfect until then. That's why God rests. His creation is finally brought to perfection at the end of the present 6th Day/Age. The perfect God will NOT rest until His creation is finished or brought to perfection according to Genesis 2:1
     
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    False, since only the descendants of Adam have inherited his superior intelligence which is like God's Genesis 3:22 Today's scientists have confused the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Humans. This means an increased punishment for those who offend our little ones by teaching them such lies. Mar 9:42 Amen?
     
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    Neanderthals are still alive, having been traced by their DNA.
     
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    The plants were made on the day before the sun.
     
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    Amen. Now, it's your time to tell us how they GREW before the Sun. Hint: it was not before the Son.
     
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    Citation please....
     
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    Easy. A day is 24 hours.
     
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    Actually secular science has confirmed that the DNA is human:

    "—Neanderthals were humans, just like us. I often get asked who the Neanderthals were. The answer is actually simple, when we start with God’s Word. All humans are descendants from Adam and Eve. Neanderthals were clearly human—they made jewelry, buried their dead, played musical instruments, fashioned and used tools, and married—and had children with so-called modern humans. Therefore, Neanderthals were descendants of Adam and Eve, just like us."

    Neanderthals—Archaic Human Cousins or Descendants of Adam?

    Neanderthal DNA in Modern Human Genomes Is Not Silent
     
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    The opposite conclusion was reached in a recent famous court case, presided over by a conservative judge. The Evangelical Intelligent Design defenders had nothing to say in rebuttal at the trial which determined that Intelligent Design theory is NOT true science and should NOT be taught in public schools. Evangelical kids often lose their faith, when they are finally freed from ill-informed church teaching on evolution and are exposed to the actual evidence. Intellectual integrity requires Christians to expose themselves to the evidence provided by experts such as devout Catholic, Dr. Kenneth Miller, who has authored acclaimed high school and college text books on evolution. Have you ever watched any of the great online lectures by Dr. Miller. Here is a brief lecture excerpt that illustrates just how good the genetic evidence for human evolution really is. Watch the video and share your counter-arguments, if you have any:

    kenneth miller youtube chimpanzee evolution - Bing video
     
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    That video is from 2007. Biologists and mathematicians gave up on Darwin this year in May as scientifically impossible (linked in signature). A strand of DNA of 250 molecues consisting of 20 amino acids equals 20 to the 250th power. Do that for every different type of DNA in the world and evolution is rendered nonsensical. Darwin is kaput.
     
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    LOL, only Fundamentalist creationists, not mainstream evolutionists! On the contrary, as Miller notes, evolutionists now argue that the basic principles of evolution, "genetic mutation and random selection" need to be restated as "genetic mutation and natural selection" because the evolution of higher primates (humans) was inevitable. So much for bogus agenda-driven math! Intellectual integrity requires that you actually watch the video and address its argument!

    Miller is the most respected exponent of evolutionary theory on the internet--and he is a devout Catholic theist. He likes to point out that Gregor Mendel, a Catholic monk, followed Augustinian scientific principles to invent the science of genetics, that demonstrates the truth of evolution.
     
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    Not in Hebrew, since a day (Heb-yowm) is used as 12 hours, 24 hours, a lifetime and forever. IOW, a day in Hebrew means ANY period of time. Try again?
     
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    UnScriptural, since Humans (descendants of Adam) were made the 3rd Day, BEFORE plants, herbs, rain and trees. Genesis 2:4-9 Today's Science teaches that the sons of God (prehistoric people) were made from WATER on the 5th Day. Genesis 1:21 teaches that "every living creature that moveth" was created from WATER. The sons of God (prehistoric people) moved as their bones clearly show. This means that Humans (descendants of Adam) were made long BEFORE any other living creature, making it impossible that Humans could have possibly descended from Apes.

    Prehistoric people (sons of God) NEVER had agriculture, built cities, nor smelted metals, as Cain's descendants did. Genesis 4:17-22 The first farming, city building and smelting happened FIRST on Adam's Earth, which was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 There is NO evidence of these traits on planet Earth until AFTER Noah arrived, 11,000 years ago, in the mountains of Ararat. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE Amen?
     
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