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Be Libertarian: The Case for Our Own Party

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. KenH

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    “The point has been made that Libertarian Party candidates don’t win as often as the candidates of the two old parties. That’s true, but a vote is not a wager. Unless you have a bet on the outcome of the election, there is no prize for predicting the winner or having your vote added to their result. A vote is an opportunity to send a message about what you want and what you don’t. The only person who loses when you vote for a candidate you don’t want is you.

    The compromises made in joining the two old parties are not just a matter of moving slower in a libertarian direction, but actively move in an anti-libertarian direction. The decision of whether a compromise is acceptable is a matter for each individual’s conscience, but honesty requires one to acknowledge the effect of the other policies and positions that one is supporting by being part of either the Republicans or Democrats.”

    Be Libertarian: The Case for Our Own Party
     
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    Remember, their last presidential candidate wants the government to ban all discrimination (meaning: go to jail if you refuse to produce speech promoting sodomy) and equated religious freedom with murder. No libertarian can support a libertine Party.

    Their last presidential candidate's anti-liberty positions are consistent with the attitude of the LP party.
     
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    “Libertarianism treats man’s sinful nature realistically. James Madison famously quipped that if men were angels no government would be necessary. Christian libertarians take this a step further, saying that it is precisely because men are not angels that government must have extraordinarily limited powers. God does not show favoritism nor does he give special privileges of position. Everyone is accountable to the moral law in the same way.”

    Can a Christian be a Libertarian? | Libertarian Christian Institute
     
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    No, KH, no Christian should be deceived into joining the Libertarian Party. As indicated in my link, I read your Libertarian Party platform and responded. There is no good moral case for the Libertarian Party. It does not matter what some individual imagines is meant by libertarian(ism). The Libertarian Party does not approach man's sinful nature realistically, but sets the loosest boundaries imaginable to do maximum destruction to society, much like the Dems.

    Where do Libertarians stand between liberals and conservatives?

     
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    I was not deceived. I joined way back in 1980 and ran for Congress in 2014 as the Libertarian Party candidate in the 4th Congressional District of Arkansas.
     
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    “Hamilton, of course, almost certainly won’t be elected. The United States remains staunchly a two-party system despite voters’ unhappiness with what’s happening in Washington.

    But picking winners and losers is not the only reason we have elections. It’s also a chance to have a national debate about the issues.”

    Should states decide on immigration? - independentarkansas.com
     
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    “Hamilton, a native of Sinton, Texas, has worked as an accountant for Murphy Oil since graduating from Harding University in 1978.

    He lives in El Dorado with his wife, Jo Lynn, and their dogs. Hamilton has not held elected office but has been a member of the Libertarian Party since 1980.

    Aside from his interest in politics, Hamilton enjoys bluegrass music.

    Here is a brief summary of the candidates’ stands on public infrastructure projects, the U.S. response to Islamic terrorists in Syria and Iraq, and the farm bill compiled from their responses in a recent debate.”

    Three issues: 4th District congressional candidates on infrastructure, ISIS, Farm Bill
     
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    Ken voted Obama twice while claiming to be libertarian. He’s a complete fraud.
     
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    Mistakes were made. I freely admit that.
     
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    Mistakes. LOL

    No, Ken. Your votes were purposeful. You are not a reliable libertarian and nobody should trust you.
     
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    I’m sorry that you feel that way. :(
     
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    Embracing the immorality of perpetrating homicide on the unborn is an untenable stance no matter how you slice it, and the Libertarian Party does this. It similarly embraces many other immoralities, a seemingly endless list of them. Their website is rather clear on this point.

    It is no surprise that those who wish to perpetrate such immoralities and teach others, including children, to approve of and do the same would gravitate to such a party.

    But Christians need to wake up to the realities of such untenable nonsense and have no part in it. Why? Because Christians of all people should be aware that such immoralities have negative, not neutral effects on all of society.

    “Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people,” Proverbs 14:34.
     
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    No, the LP does not. The LP’s position is that government, especially the federal government, should stay out of the abortion issue, and especially not subsidize it with taxpayers’ money.

    Also, many(perhaps 33-40%) of libertarians are pro-life - www.l4l.org.
     
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    I’m sorry you’re so double minded.
     
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    :Frown
     
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    Taking a neutral stance regarding rights will effectively remove them, thus create more victims, as evidenced by the 60 million babies murdered in the US since Roe v. Wade.

    But perhaps the Libertarian Party doesn't think abortion hurts anybody?

    As a party, Libertarians are not to be trusted, as they cannot tell right from wrong, or don't care.
     
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    I don’t trust ANY political party. Political parties are composed of fallen human beings.
     
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    The govt should not stay out of protecting the innocent from murder.
     
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    Per the U.S. Constitution, the federal government has no warrant to be involved in the abortion issue. It is, at most, an issue for the individual states.
     
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