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Recent content by Silverhair

  1. Silverhair

    Are You Satisfied With President Trump?

    @th1bill have you seen anything in him that would lead you to think he is actually a Christian? He seems more concerned with war than with world peace.
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    Your Prayers Please

    I do not have adequate words to comfort so I will defer to Paul. ...the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with...
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    Propitiation

    Even though God from the beginning knew that He would send Christ that did not diminish His love for His creation. [Jn 3:16] That is why Christ is the propitiation for the whole world. So that the world might be saved through Him. [Jn 3:17] Propitiation does not mean that we are forgiven but...
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    Propitiation

    You have been shown the word of God and yet you ignore it. Perhaps this will clear up some of your confusion? Rom 3:25 whom G3739 God G2316 set forth G4388 (G5639) as a propitiation G2435 G2435 - Original: ἱλαστήριον - Transliteration: Hilasterion relating to an appeasing or expiating...
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    Propitiation

    Dave you are confusing what Christ is, the means of appeasing God, with what Christ has done, has appeased God. If John had wanted to say what you need him to have said then he would have used the verbal form of propitiation, ἱλάσκομαι G2433 , but he did not do that. 1Jn 2:2 is clear if you...
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    Propitiation

    And once again you are ignoring the word of God. Since you object to the words "means" & "only"do you Calvinist's think there is another means of our salvation other than Christ? Is He not the only way? Since you deny that Christ is the means of appeasing God then I have to wonder why you...
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    Propitiation

    Dave it is a noun in three of those verses and you want it to be a verb. You are holding to your calvinism rather that the actual word of God. Christ is the propitiation [noun] that the Father sent. He is the propitiation [the means of appeasing] for the whole world unless you think there is...
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    Propitiation

    Dave you do realize that the word propitiation can be both a noun and a verb. In these three verses Rom_3:25, 1Jn_2:2 & 1Jn_4:10 it is in the noun form and is telling us what Christ is. He is the means of appeasing God. In Heb_2:17 it is in the verb form and that is telling us what Christ did...
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    Propitiation

    Martin you need to learn how to read without injecting your preconceived views into the text. 1Jn 2:2 says Christ IS the propitiation, He is the means of appeasing God. God being appeased does not mean people are saved. We are only saved through faith not before. The only person saved at the...
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    The nature of free will

    In agree that the reason some reject the gospel is that they don't want to come to Christ or give up sin. That is why I have said that free will is at the same time both the best and the worst gift that God could have given to mankind. Satan uses various means to draw man to him through sin...
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    Propitiation

    The text is clear Dave, He {Christ} IS the propitiation for the "whole world", not just part of it as you are suggesting. He is the only means of salvation for all people unless you think there is some other way that people can be saved. Do you have another meaning for "whole world", it seems...
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    Propitiation

    The text does not support your view Dave. Yes John was speaking to believers and Christ is the propitiation for them but then John goes on to say Christ is not just their propitiation but also for the whole world. John did not say for the whole world that believe, that has to be read into the...
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    The nature of free will

    So we both agree that even those that are saved can and will sin. The Calvinist total depravity view is just a man made attempt to answer as to why some will reject the gospel message. I have not read either Arminius or Edwards but I have read God's word and have found that God has provided...
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    The nature of free will

    Dave I agree with what you said here " it may well be that we should be able to hear the gospel and respond and in truth, we should be able to just decide to turn around, turn to God". Which we can do as we see clearly in scripture. Eph 1:13, Rom 10-9, Eph 2:8. Through our God given free will we...
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    Propitiation

    That you missed the intent of the text is worth going on about. But it would seem that you are more interested in just playing silly word games in your responses than actually dealing with the text. I pointed out that propitiation in 1Jn 2:2 is a noun as you did not seem to know that from what...
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