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Tough One To Crack, Or Just A Crackpot?

Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Shadowlands, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. Shadowlands

    Shadowlands Member
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    I received an email with a copy of a letter written by a female Pastor,
    who happens to be liberal, and apparently she has "issues" about
    defining the term Pro-Life.

    She say's she really doesn't like the term "pro life" because she's not
    so sure that it's an "accurate descriptor".

    So she provided a list of questions, in which readers are supposed
    to answer "yes" or "no". Here's that list (and I quote):

    1. "Are you opposed to your tax dollars being spent to provide health
    care to all who need it if doing so will save lives?"

    2. "Are you opposed to your tax dollars being spent to feed the poor?"

    3. "Are you opposed to your tax dollars being spent to house the poor?"

    4. "Are you in favor of the death penalty?"

    5. "Are you OK with knowing refugee children will die if they are not allowed
    to enter the United States?"

    6. "Are you opposed to laws making it harder for children to get their hands on
    guns?"

    Then she concluded:

    "If the answer to any of these questions is 'yes' then you are not pro-life; you
    are pro-birth and you don't much care about what happens to those babies
    after they're born."

    End Quote.

    She is an educator with a Ph.D at a local community college.
     
  2. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
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    That depends on the ability of the person to provide his own healthcare. If the person is unable, due to disability, etc., I would not be opposed to a healthcare safety net for the indigent or disabled. So, as with all such questions that require an overly simplistic "yes" or "no" answer, the actual answer is a bit more complex than the "professor" seems to understand.

    I am not opposed to a food stamp type program that provides necessary nutrition for those who cannot, due to disability, provide such nutrition for their families. But "nutrition" does not include junk food, cigarettes, and beverage alcohol. So, as with all such questions that require an overly simplistic "yes" or "no" answer, the actual answer is a bit more complex than the "professor" seems to understand.

    If the poor cannot, through disability or other issues beyond their control, care for themselves, I have no problem with providing temporary housing, coupled with a job training program, to assist those in need to get beyond the unfortunate circumstances they find themselves in. So, as with all such questions that require an overly simplistic "yes" or "no" answer, the actual answer is a bit more complex than the "professor" seems to understand.

    The death penalty is an admission of failure. The failure of families to instill proper attitudes and conduct in their children, and the failure of society to identify and correct the problem before it becomes necessary to render the final verdict. But as with all such evils, sometimes we have to admit our failure and proceed with the necessary evil of capital punishment. I would strongly oppose the death penalty if there were another option to protect society from those who prey on the weak and helpless. But our courts can't be trusted to keep such predators locked up. And a "life" sentence is described as "25 years." If 25 years constitutes a "lifetime" I am almost through my 3rd lifetime. So, as with all such questions that require an overly simplistic "yes" or "no" answer, the actual answer is a bit more complex than the "professor" seems to understand.

    Why are they refugees? Who are the fleeing? Where are their parents? Insufficient data for a meaningful answer. So, as with all such questions that require an overly simplistic "yes" or "no" answer, the actual answer is a bit more complex than the "professor" seems to understand.

    It is already illegal to allow children access to firearms without adult supervision. I keep my firearms locked up, even though there are no children in my household. I do not oppose those common sense laws. So, as with all such questions that require an overly simplistic "yes" or "no" answer, the actual answer is a bit more complex than the "professor" seems to understand.

    And you, professor, are a liar. How many at need children have you adopted? My wife and I are adoptive parents. We have done, and continue to do, our part. How about you, "Professor." Have you opened your home to adopt needy children? If not, why not? Could it be that you are a hypocrite?

    Ph.D. "Piled higher and Deeper." And she is not an educator. She is a propagandist. An indoctrinator. She is trying to teach young people what to think rather than doing the work of a legitimate pedagogue, teaching them how to think. Then allowing them to come to their own conclusions rather than forcing her conclusions on them.
     
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  3. Rob_BW

    Rob_BW Well-Known Member
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    Lol, does she have an account here? Those arguments sound famiar.
     
  4. Shadowlands

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    I really really doubt it Rob.
     
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  5. Yeshua1

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    Just curious as to why she is a pastor?
     
  6. Shadowlands

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    I don't know. I'll ask.
     
  7. Yeshua1

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    I mean, by what basis is she ordained?
     
  8. InTheLight

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    Fine, then let's go with anti-abortion. Problem solved.

    Yes, but Medicare and Medicaid is already a law.

    No.

    No.

    Yes.

    Yes.


    Yes.


    OK, then I'm anti-abortion. Problem solved.
     
  9. Shadowlands

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    Yeshua1, sorry it took awhile. She is from the Mennonite Peace Church. I don't know
    which one. Couldn't get any additional. I thought women weren't permitted ordination
    in the Mennonite Church. Oh well.
     
  10. Rob_BW

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    I grew up in Mennonite territory, in Appalachia. I've given up trying to reconcile the Mennonite church I grew up in with what I've seen around here and online. It's like two completely opposite churches with the same name.
     
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