"Baptist"

They are indeed! Therefore we baptize whom the Bible says to baptize. 'But when they believed Philip as he preached......both men and women were baptized' (Acts 8:12). 100 year old women are still women, therefore we have a mandate to baptize them. We don't have a mandate to baptize women.

Fine by me.

Now that is an argument from silence.

According to Luke 1:41, the baby leaped in Elizabeth's womb and she was filled with the Holy Spirit. But it is a huge stretch from one baby leaping in the womb to all babies being regenerate, if that is what you're suggesting.

 

"Saved" - In all the Baptists churches I've been to a profession of faith is required for "believers" .

Just curious and admitting that church membership does not guarantee salvation and potentially some can be unsaved - How did you actually know indeed that the unsaved members are/were "unsaved people" in these churches you had been to?

 

Baptism is not to wash away sin. It is to show we subscribe to the death burial and resurrection of Jesus in our lives

 

So you are NOT doing things like Jesus did!
(dresses for everybody)

 

They drink and smoke and the women wear slacks!!!!

 

While I empathize with your experience, it does not negate the hallmarks of a local church. Church discipline, baptism, the Lord's supper, preaching, congregational signing et al. remain a part of a healthy local church.

 

The rules of behavior mentioned here were reflections of worldly behavior years ago,. They have become the focus of those in the church and those outside the church, both are misguided. Instead the focus should be the spiritual over the physical.
Both are legalism.

 

I am a Sovereign Grace Old Line Old School Baptist of the Primitive kind... We are also known by those that disagree with us as Hardshellers' but don't get us mixed up with the No Hellers... In the Baptist landscape there are Heinz 57 varieties and then some... There are isms, chisms, splits and divisions... And you thought you were just a Baptist?... Brother Glen

 

Error attacks from all sides, We should believe as scripture teaches.

New doctrine requires a new and cannot continue to be as Baptist

 

I don't put a lot of emphasis on names as I do to doctrine. My church changed its name from Missionary Baptist Church to New City Church and we are still Baptist in doctrine and linage.
Yes a name can be important but there are many Baptist churches who do not have Baptist Doctrine and there are many Baptist Churches who do not act like biblical Baptists but rather act more like Pharisees Baptists.

 

By their actions.

 

Are you a Catholic?

 

You are correct, both men and women were baptized.

You are correct, Elizabeth was filled with the Spirit. However, if you read Luke 1:15, the angel promised the baby (John) would be filled with the Spirit from the womb.

I didn't say all babies were regenerate (or that any were regenerate for that matter), I simply repeated a theory concerning infants being able to express faith in a way God can understand, but we cannot.

They evidence given to support that theory is that John was filled with the Spirit while in his mother's womb.

I find that theory interesting, and see no reason why God could not do that.

 

I could see myself asking those IFB people what type of scotch they drink? Then telling them, I wasn’t referring to corn squeezing.

 

OK but you could be wrong. God looks upon the heart.

 

How about the type that came outa Wales around the 6th century? Talk about primitive!

And I will never trust a church again.

 

Please

 

I am a Independent Fundamental Pre-Millennial Baptist; KJV

My emphasis is on doctrine and people are free to choose whatever translation they desire.

That being said and being ordained in the IFB Church I am not fond of the many legalistic characteristics that exist in many ( not all) IFB churches. The church government in the IFB church can be a problem as well as compared to the SBC, etc. churches. You get a pastor in their who strays from scripture, has his busy body robots in the majority and he then becomes like a dictator and you cannot get him out of there.

Some of the IFB churches are run by pastors wives, women I see as well. This would not happen in a SBC church for example from my experience. When I visit my good friend who is a SBC pastor church I seem to appreciate it more so then some IFB churches.

John the Baptist, Jesus Christ were all Jews. Many of the Baptist Briders like to say they can trace their origin back to John, which is a croc.

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

John preached repentance to the KOH...........Jewish.

John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

There were no Christians mentioned in scripture even though the body of Christ was there until..............Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.