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NY Times: Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Baptist Believer, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. Squire Robertsson

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    How is Fred Trump's maneuvering around and through the briar patch of US and NY tax laws any different than what John D. Rockefeller and Henry Ford did? Or any other person with wealth to be passed on to his heirs?
     
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    They weren’t in power and witch hunted like Trump.
     
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  3. Aaron

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    :Laugh:Laugh:Laugh:Roflmao
     
  4. Baptist Believer

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    Not as a toddler. When he became and adult and was hands on with a number of the schemes, then he became accountable.

    Who said the amount remained $200,000/year or that it was the only way money was transferred? You don't even have the command of the most basic allegations of the story and you are trying to dismiss it. It is obvious you haven't even skimmed over the story.

    You have no way of knowing whether or not it was deceitful because you haven't even bothered to read the story, yet you have drawn your conclusions and condemned it anyway. Sad.
     
  5. Baptist Believer

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    I didn't expect you to care, but that's your issue, not mine.
     
  6. Baptist Believer

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    My question is, "have you actually read the lines?"

    To some degree. We can't be sure if that means the report is nearly ready or if he has completed one aspect of the investigation. If you actually read the article you cited, this sentence should have helped you understand what it means:

    "Van Grack and Freeny were on the teams prosecuting Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort."

    Since Manafort has already been found guilty of eight felonies and is not cooperating with the investigation, there probably isn't any more reason to investigated him.
     
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    Even if nothing else comes out of the investigation (highly unlikely), Mueller has a number of guilty pleas, one who has been found guilty in a court of law, a couple of people who have already gone to prison, and a number of indictments issued. So there's no sane way to call that a "witch hunt" and no need to "back out." His reputation is secure among most Americans.
     
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  8. Baptist Believer

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    I don't like estate taxes either, but that's not the point. Estate taxes were the law at the time the Trump family allegedly used illegal means to circumvent them.
     
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    Everything you hear on the radio must be true, just like everything you see on television.
     
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    I responded to quotes from the story, which was enough to see the deceitful nature of the reporting.
     
  11. Baptist Believer

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    You responded to just a small portion of the introductory material that I quoted from a 14,000+ word story with extensive detail.

    Since you misinterpreted the small part that was quoted, you can be sure you have made a faulty judgment.
     
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    Yep, and still am (I seriously doubt that you bother to look in this direction, you're so fixated with impugning Trump). Read these lines, something's happening this morning:

    SOMETHING’S GOING DOWN=> DOJ National Security Division Announces Thursday Morning Press Conference

    "...And now this… The Department of Justice led by Rod Rosenstein will hold a press conference on Thursday morning at 9:30 AM Eastern...."

    That's 15 minutes from now.

     
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    The nyt is obviously biased. I misinterpreted nothing. No need to waste time on biased reporting.

    Thanks for the conversation. Peace to you.
     
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    Seemed to be enough your issue that you felt compelled to comment.
     
  15. Baptist Believer

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    And it is not directly related to Mueller's investigation.
     
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    That is the problem with the NYT--it is the voice of the Democrat Party and is partly owned by Carlos Slim, worth perhaps seventy billion dollars. If Slim keeps these smears up, Trump should order the IRS to examine for tax evasion every transactions of the Mexican Carlos Slim to prove that Slim is not engaging in monopolistic practices or tax evasion schemes to support his extravagant lifestyle in the South of France. I myself have never heard of Slim giving anybody anything but I don't know. I know Slim cheated the Mexican people of the government telephone system for which he paid a fraction of what it was worth when he got the insider deal from Mexican President Carlos Slim.
     
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    Ues there is. None of those charges have anything to do with russia. A witch hunt it is.
     
  18. Baptist Believer

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    You obviously haven't been keeping up since there were indictments against Russian hackers. Moreover, there are connections to Russia in Paul Manafort's consulting business and the arrest of Maria Butina, who was involved with the NRA and certain Republicans. Since there is a gag order on the case, we don't know much more than that.
     
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    Because there is no more.
     
  20. Baptist Believer

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    So you are involved in the investigation and know information that is being kept secret under the gag order? Unless that is true, then you cannot know and you have no basis to make your claim.
     
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