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Christianity the white man's religion???

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  1. OfLivingWaters

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    I thought I would shake things up a bit. We all know racism over the centuries has been prevalent even in our beloved Churches. Throughout time we have had an image of Christ that has become the norm. The blue eyed European man is what we all know from the RCC. The Ancient way shows him to be more of the same less detailed looking . Protestants, more of the same. So does the word say much about this? The reason I bring this up is, I have heard many discussions that Christianity is a white man's religion . What are people talking about?

    So starting from the beginning to Christ I thought I would debunk that notion. Why? To help our black brothers and sisters who will reject Christianity because of the poor WHITE experience here in America and abroad. I will also share misnomers concerning Muhammad by sharing some truths another shares based on his intensive study of Islam. Why?
    Because Blacks would rather be Muslim because of what they say was done in the name of "Christianity". Really, in the the name of Christianity??? Muhammad WAS WHITE (THIS IS FOR ANOTHER POST)! Time to debunk some claims of Blacks and Whites.

    Well, it is clear that Christianity is not a white man's religion because there are a number of people of the black race within the Word. But going back to the beginning , it is clear that we all come from the same two people. Adam and Eve obviously were created with the genes to produce people of all races so it could be that if not both one, maybe Eve -was black ,for the blend of all races makes black. Further more , it is clear that Noah and his son's too produced people of all races because after the flood they repopulated the planet.

    And it is clear that Moses children with his wife Zapphora would be mixed and probably be a polished bronze complexion .

    Zipporah or Tzipora (/ˈzɪpərə, zɪˈpɔːrə/; Hebrew: צִפוֹרָה‬, Tsippōrāh, "bird") is mentioned in the Book of Exodus as the wife of Moses, and the daughter of Reuel/Jethro, the priest or prince of Midian.
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    Moses's wife was not white she was Cushite . Cushite itself means black, and it is true that they were a dark skinned people.

    Excerpt from an article by John Piper 9Marks
    Moses, a Jew, apparently married a black African and was approved by God.
    We learn in Numbers that “Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman” (Num. 12:1). A Cushite is from Cush, a region south of Ethiopia, where the people are known for their black skin. We know this because of Jeremiah 13:23: “Can the Ethiopian [the same Hebrew word translated “Cushite” in Numbers 12:1] change his skin or the leopard his spots? Then also you can do good who are accustomed to do evil.” Attention is drawn to the difference of the skin of the Cushite people.
    In his book From Every People and Nation: A Biblical Theology of Race, Daniel Hays writes that Cush “is used regularly to refer to the area south of Egypt, and above the cataracts on the Nile, where a Black African civilization flourished for over two thousand years. Thus it is quite clear that Moses marries a Black African woman” (71).
    In response to Miriam’s criticism, God does not get angry at Moses; he gets angry at Miriam. The criticism has to do with Moses’ marriage and Moses’ authority. The most explicit statement relates to the marriage: “Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman.” Then God strikes Miriam with leprosy. Why? Consider this possibility. In God’s anger at Miriam, Moses’ sister, God says in effect, “You like being light-skinned Miriam? I’ll make you light-skinned.” So we read, “When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous, like snow” (Num. 12:10)
    God says not a critical word against Moses for marrying a black Cushite woman. But when Miriam criticizes God’s chosen leader for this marriage God strikes her skin with white leprosy. If you ever thought black was a biblical symbol for uncleanness, be careful; a worse white uncleanness could come upon you.

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    Zephaniah 3:10

    From beyond the rivers of Cush My worshipers, My scattered people, will bring Me an offering.

    Isaiah 60:6-9

    The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD…
    Isaiah 60:1-6,9

    60Arise, shine; for your light has come,
    and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you.
    2 For darkness shall cover the earth,
    and thick darkness the peoples;
    but the Lord will arise upon you,
    and his glory will appear over you.
    3 Nations shall come to your light,
    and kings to the brightness of your dawn.

    4 Lift up your eyes and look around;
    they all gather together, they come to you;
    your sons shall come from far away,
    and your daughters shall be carried on their nurses’ arms.
    5 Then you shall see and be radiant;
    your heart shall thrill and rejoice,*
    because the abundance of the sea shall be brought to you,
    the wealth of the nations shall come to you.
    6 A multitude of camels shall cover you,
    the young camels of Midian and Ephah;
    all those from Sheba shall come.
    They shall bring gold and frankincense,
    and shall proclaim the praise of the Lord.
    9 For the coastlands shall wait for me,
    the ships of Tarshish first,
    to bring your children from far away,
    their silver and gold with them,
    for the name of the Lord your God,
    and for the Holy One of Israel,
    because he has glorified you.


    Psalm 68:31
    A Message to Cush Isaiah 18:6-7

    …6They will all be left to the mountain birds of prey, and to the beasts of the land. The birds will feed on them in summer, and all the wild animals in winter. 7At that time gifts will be brought to the LORD of Hosts— from a people tall and smooth-skinned, from a people widely feared, from a powerful nation of strange speech, whose land is divided by rivers— to Mount Zion, the place of the Name of the LORD of Hosts.
    Envoys will arrive from Egypt; Cush will stretch out her hands to God.
    Acts 8:27

    So he started out, and on his way he met an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official in charge of the entire treasury of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians. He had gone to Jerusalem to worship,




    There are black raced people all throughout scripture, more than I posted.
    Not to mention the Song of Solomon which is the highest praise of love. This song is a symbolism for Christ and His Bride an elect chosen people representative of Joseph's Coat of many colors. Though it was written for a black woman it represents God's love for His people and Christ said I will call people of other flocks which are other cultures. We know all scripture is God breathed therefore the Song of Solomon is God's song.
    All Scripture is God-Breathed 2Timothy 3:15-17

    …15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…

    The Song of Solomon: Its symbolism represents the people called out from every tribe and nation color and creed. The statement: "I am dark but lovely" represents the blending of Joseph's Coat of many colors , it is a symbolism known as dark and lovely, for all the colors blended makes black . Joseph's coat of many colors speaks to this. I know the meaning of the Song of Solomon and though it was written about a black woman , it is God's highest song to His Elect Bride and a prophecy of theirs to Him. It is not to a particular race but a multicultural blend of races which makes "Black". There are many mysteries of our God in Solomon's Song.



    In conclusion, it is a fact that outside of the ancient Hebrews the Ethiopians held the FULL OT, before the Greek or Roman and has more books than the RC bible and Other Orthodox bibles and Protetstant. It was gifted to them by Solomon to Queen Sheba. Not to mention they also received the complete NT, with books that do not exist in the RC bible, Protestant and other Orthodox bibles. It would seem the "little Ones" are very blessed!
    It is clear God has a special place for all colors, hence Joseph' coat of many colors.

    Do you know who else is polished bronze in color?
    John's Vision on Patmos Rev.1:14

    …13and among the lampstands was One like the Son of Man, dressed in a long robe, with a golden sash around His chest. 14The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire. 15His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace, and His voice was like the roar of many waters.…
    Daniel 10:6

    His body was like beryl, his face like the brilliance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of polished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.

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    In Daniel's account it is clear the beryl color of His body was His glowing spiritual light. For untainted beryl is clear, His countenance (FACE)was like lightning and HIS SKIN COLOR " his arms and His legs of polished bronze". This is the color of His flesh not the beryl color of His spiritual heart light, seen through His white garment or the spiritual countenance of His face. So it would seem that Christ is a polished bronze complexion. HE IS NOT BLACK like many racist blacks are now claiming, HE IS NOT WHITE, like white Jews and European men claim and have claimed. What does POLISHED BRONZE look like? Polished bronze color is golden brown color. It is interesting that many wise men and the father's of the faith- Moses, Solomon and Noah's son's had wives of the black race therefore , BLACKS have always been part of the bible and would have contributed to the colors of Israel. Our lord chose the color of the mix of black and white to demonstrate this unifying quality and beauty . His hair too, was like wool. So he was a strong presents among the White JEWS. Maybe some were racist toward Him??? I would bet many acted as Moses's sister did. I would say yes for He experienced what every man has and this would include RACISM. So, the black man has to get off it and the white man needs to take it down a couple notches. YESHUA who only had chromosomes from His mother chose POLISHED BRONZE (BROWN) as color. PROVE THIS WRONG.......
    The Shroud of Turin is the most studied and tested religious relic on the planet but baffles scientists still.
    The key problem is that we have no other sources of Jesus’s putative DNA to compare with the blood, type AB, found on the Shroud. But more clues about the identity of the man in the Shroud continue to be discovered. For example, blood found on the Shroud points to DNA with only female, XX chromosomes. No male, Y chromosome is present. (See Luke 1:26–35 for compatible Biblical background.)
    It is easy to cast aside the Shroud as a hoax because of the improbability that the burial cloth of Jesus would have survived two millennia. Indeed, it has survived several close calls, most notably the fire of 1532 that left all the scorch marks along the border, and more recently Hitler’s attempt (discovered in 2010) to steal the highly prized religious article.
    If skeptics would only study all the verified facts — including the definitive debunking of the 1988 carbon-dating test, which led to the erroneous determination that the relic was a forgery from the Middle Ages — they would conclude that the image on the shroud can only be that of the man whose brutal death we know of from ancient historical accounts, including the gospels. Proof of Christ’s resurrection is there for all to see if one chooses to see it — like faith itself.

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    Jesus wasn’t white: he was a brown-skinned, Middle Eastern Jew. Here’s why that matters. His brown complexion puts to rest white supremacy and black relativism, for BROWN represents a blend- if you will ,that God chose for His Incarnation.



    [​IMG] ADD A POLISHED BRONZE COMPLEXION AND I THINK THIS IS JUST ABOUT RIGHT.
     
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    I am simply pointing out scripture. I have the same images of Christ that most everyone in the Catholic and Orthodox Ethiopian and some Protestant's have in their homes. One of my favorites, some of you may have it, is "Behold I stand at the door and knock":
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    He looks pretty bronzy to me in this one, and the beautiful glow of His heart is depicted . Point I think the scriptures and the Shroud of Turin are the true middle eastern Jewish image of Him.
    All the cultures put their identity in Him.
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    I sometimes think Churches, (especially of a certain age) do not think outside of the box. They do not realize that today even- there are saints and holy people who bring new understanding and even prophecy which keeps the church always afresh . However, when a new , but clearly true understanding is revealed, they fear it like the plague and do not want to be associated with it. Has the church of Rome and others only become about the daily news and arguing with heretics and atheist? Does it not still posses the Spirit of renewal, and revelation? Or has it become stagnant , with no more waters of life which continually move and flow throughout the ages?
    Rev.14:
    2 And I heard a voice from heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; the voice I heard was like the sound of harpers playing on their harps, 3 and they sing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who had been redeemed from the earth.

    NEW SONG- but is later revealed as the eternal gospel.
    Rev.14
    6 Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;
    The new song is just the eternal gospel revealed. It is living and always has something to keep us anew and refreshed. It would seem Christ is simply revealing His Hebrew image in what I posted. I think it is good for His middle eastern image to be known.
     
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    Who Is Blind

    There are no bad races, only bad people.

    There are no good races, only good people.

    No race is superior to another,

    All races are created equal,

    As no flower is more beautiful than another,

    God created people of all colors.

    Hate is not a color, but, a debilitating weakness built on ignorance,

    Creating bad conditions in the human experience.

    Does the blind man without sight no you are white ?

    Does he know your color or creed ?

    Can he tell the difference between a black man or an Indian,

    Between a Jew or an Italian ?

    Are not all his opinions based on how he is treated and not on what he sees?

    And you who can see, whose view point is from hate,

    What does it take to make a blind man see ?

    Take a look inside, close your eyes and you will see why Yeshua the Lord died !

    Hate!

    Some say to be blind without physical sight is a limitation,

    But, I see, it teaches the seeing world how to live without limitations.

    Who is blind ?

    Yeshua came to give sight to the blind and he with sight to let him know he is blind !

    Unless you see as Yeshua sees, all you see are limitations, becoming

    Yourself a limitation to society !

    And since only the flock of God shall enter through heavens door,

    Limitations will be no more !

    Only the strong survive.

    Who is blind!

    By, Of Living Waters
     
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