House Dem now sees no 'value' in impeachment, as polls show falling support among independents

Interestingly, she attempted to walk back these comments not long afterward, saying she stands behind the push to impeach. She was obviously forced back into lockstep formation. As the Mob Boss Pelosi likes to intimate, Dems don't allow diversity, they just talk as if they do.

 

the plan was presumption of guilt with appropriate punishment until evidence of a crime or treason or a high misdemeanor was found ala the book TheTrial by Franz Kafka.

no evidence has been found but verdict and punishment remain the same by demand as under guilty verdict.

 

I've said many times a few top Dems KNOW the Senate jon't come close to finding Trump guilty if he's impeached, & they don't want to eat the voter backlash. However, Pelosi & crew just can't bring themselves to dump the impeachment idea.

OK, let's say for the sake of discussion that Trump actually DID order funds withheld from Ukraine til they did as he asked. How criminal is that ? Has it ever been done before ?

My answer to my first rhetorical question: I can't find anything criminal in a POTUS's withholding any foreign aid for any reason. POTUS has that authority.

My answer to next question: We need look no further than FDR's dealings with Churchill during WW2, both before & after the US became involved in it. Several times, FDR implied, without actually directly threatening, that he'd withhold destroyers & merchantmen he'd promised the British to help them fight the dire threat of the German U-boats to their shipping lifeline, so vital to an island nation, unless the British undertook counter-offensives against the Axis in the manner the US wished. later, FDR implied that he'd shift the main US effort to the Pacific unless Britain agreed to a landing directly into France in 1944. (The British had wanted to wait til 1945.)

Now, did anyone cry "Foul !" then ? Of course not ! Churchill knew the British were beleaguered & woulda been in danger of having to seek a truce or armistice with Germany

 

IMO i still believe an off-ramp will miraculously appear down the impeachment expressway and the GLOBALISTS will take it to avoid the unpredictable path otherwise.

 

One good thing if the House votes to impeach and the Senate does not convict: the Democrats won't be able to use the same charges again in any future impeachment attempt.